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Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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post #203

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Could Google not commit to open sourcing projects in a maintainable way (public repos, k8s support versus just Borg, which no one has access to) and guarantee data export functionality as part of Takeout? This would significantly derisk attempting to use a fledgling Google service for end users. Definitely not a resourcing issue, entirely an organizational culture and philosophy decision to be made.

I don't work at Google but my understanding is there are a lot of proprietary, closed-source internal APIs that make this difficult-bordering-impossible.

Yes, Google wouldn't want anyone seeing exactly how thoroughly everything hooks into their data collection and ad targeting systems.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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Just to be fair, Microsoft also recently re-launched a tuned-up version of Sharepoint Lists, now just called "Lists" [1] which is in the same space. It took something like AirTable to wake the sleeping giants, that people wanted a low-code tabular data editor and storage engine, that wasn't really a spreadsheet. You know.. like FileMaker or MS Access. I guess this goes to show something - I have thought for many, man…

> It took something like AirTable to wake the sleeping giants

My employer gives me Lists as part of Office 365. It's one of those things that sounds good as long as you're reading about it and not using it. It's just not a competitor to AirTable. Not that I use AT either, because I'm not going to pay that much for what I'd use it, but Lists is pretty bad. The look and feel makes me think Lists is a Perl CGI app from 2001.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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OTOH, Google doesn’t like to invest big money in businesses that aren’t on track to be big. From just nine months ago: “Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21815260

That is the exact thread I have a comment in from ~9 months ago. Anyone thinking that Google is going to shut down 24 physical datacenter regions spread all around the world if they're not #1 in the cloud market in 3 years is insane. The cloud market is multi billion dollar business and is only going to continue growing (even moreso now in the last ~9 months thanks to COVID). It isn't a free RSS aggregator that isn't…

The funny thing is, I had a pitch by Azure to convince us to switch from GCP.

And they point blank said that Google is not investing into GCP and implied that it's on a death bed.

LOL

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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Linking to killedbygoogle.com where more than half of things are not actually kiled by Google is not a good argument. I agree that products getting killed by Google is a concern and a few comment accurately point out and add to discussions while most of the others just keep repeating like a meme. Very rarely the discussion feels like a discussion. OP brought up another point about Google being a 20 year old company s…

Oh no they used an ad hominem so you responded with an irrelevant whataboutism.

Fair enough, removing that.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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A couple of years ago Asana stole our slogan, now Google. For the record, https://www.paymoapp.com (work management) was the first to use Work better, together. Really annoying that they don't do at least a bit of research.

This is a basic combinations of words from the English language. You do not own it.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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They should release the financials of the app and let companies bid to acquire the app and its userbase. Smaller companies get a shot at growing the business, users stay happy(er than they would otherwise) and google gets a shot at acquiring the original idea back should it succeed under the hands of people who give a damn. Unfortunately, such a program would likely be sunset after a year.

More importantly, this is all released on Google's internal infrastructure. Any such work would require moving to the external infrastructure, and the cost of it likely wouldn't make sense. The real issue is this: Why am I paying 10 dollars/user/month for this when G suite Business is 12? I could see using this for the organization, but not at that cost.

Getting paying customers is great for idea validation.

If nobody wants to pay, you at least know that.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

#278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is the exact thread I have a comment in from ~9 months ago. Anyone thinking that Google is going to shut down 24 physical datacenter regions spread all around the world if they're not #1 in the cloud market in 3 years is insane. The cloud market is multi billion dollar business and is only going to continue growing (even moreso now in the last ~9 months thanks to COVID). It isn't a free RSS aggregator that isn't…

The funny thing is, I had a pitch by Azure to convince us to switch from GCP. And they point blank said that Google is not investing into GCP and implied that it's on a death bed. LOL

Sounds like their salesman needs to work a little harder on his pitch. :)

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

#279

A couple of years ago Asana stole our slogan, now Google. For the record, https://www.paymoapp.com (work management) was the first to use Work better, together. Really annoying that they don't do at least a bit of research.

This is a basic combinations of words from the English language. You do not own it.

Are you serious? Is "Just do it" a combination of words in English? We don't own it because we're a small startup.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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post #132

I tried to give it a shot. Tables is, for reasons I cannot understand, geo-locked. > Tables is not yet available > The Tables beta is currently available in the U.S.

yes, annoying. possibly gdpr related?

I considered that but I'm in Canada.

There is someone in every organization asking to minimize potential legal liability. It's a bit sad that the Chicken Littles have won again.

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