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Also, victims of the Atlantic Slave Trade, anti-union riots, and lax labor safety law. I get that Mao is a high hurdle to pass but I think we've done it and then some.
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>clearly the "aggressor" China was the 5th out of 6th claimants to weaponize their holdings on the SCS. The last being Brunei who has nothing. China was merely responding, not initiating SCS weaponization (but mostly in response to US pivot to Asia and increased US basing in the area to contain China - same reason Russia took Crimea in response to NATO encroachment led by US). The difference being China reclaiming la…
Why is a comment that merely states the facts being downvoted?
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I have sympathy for the statement that lifting 500 million people out of abject, generational poverty ranks among the greatest humanitarian successes in history. At the same time local corruption, and the number of protests against those officials was an enormous problem and seemed to get remarkably little coverage. A mature legal system is the only reliable way to combat problems like corruption. A legal system is m…
> I have sympathy for the statement that lifting 500 million people out of abject, generational poverty ranks among the greatest humanitarian successes in history. Do the ends justify the means? A long form piece entitled "Why Do Chinese People Like Their Government?”: > But, with only very few exceptions, they really conceived of liberalism not as an end in itself but rather as a means to the decidedly nationalist e…
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Was it former territory? China has seen various power takeovers since the start of British rule in Hong Kong. In 1842, was ruled by the Qing dynasty, in 1912 it became the Republic of China, and in 1949, the Chinese Communist Party took over, leaving Taiwan to the Nationalist government. So you could also argue that Hong Kong should have been returned to Taiwan. Not that that could have happened, but it's not clear c…
Interesting argument, but I think at time of the handover Taiwan was not recognized as a state by most major powers (including UK), or do I remember this wrongly?
They ruled China for 37 years. I'm sure they had diplomatic relations
Hong Kong should return to the Taiwanese government. The legitimate government of China
"Before the Nationalist government was ousted from the mainland, the Republic of China had diplomatic relations with 59 countries, such as Australia, Canada, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Estonia, France, Germany, Guatemala, Honduras, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, Panama, Siam, Soviet Union, Spain, the United Kingdom, the United States, and Vatican City. Most of these relations continued at least until the 1970s, and the Republic of China remained a member of the United Nations until 1971."
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I'm starting to hate how every thread slowly ends up being about the US instead of the actual topic. HN avoided this for the long time but slowly crawling up here too. Reddit already past this, there is no post in almost any front page default sub without mentioning Trump
Yep, it’s incredibly frustrating. Every article about CCP gets derailed or diverted. Mostly by the same predictable user ids, plus newly registered users. Given the traffic of HN I am certain that it’s the paid wumaos/shills of the CCP trying to change the narrative. Despicable!
There is a vast amount of previous explanation on the subject:
https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&type=comment&dateRange=a...
The short version is that the HN community is legitimately divided on these issues, that fact suffices to explain everything we see here, and you can't make insinuations like this without some evidence. People holding differing views on a divisive topic does not count as evidence of manipulation.
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I'm starting to hate how every thread slowly ends up being about the US instead of the actual topic. HN avoided this for the long time but slowly crawling up here too. Reddit already past this, there is no post in almost any front page default sub without mentioning Trump
I’m sorry that pattern matching offends you.
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Most of the West wants to appease China. What response are you talking about. It's not standing in front, that's for sure. EU silence is deafening, except for some weak, mild comments here or there. China's diplomacy barks back, and EU commissioners become silent.
It looks like you've been using HN primarily for political and nationalistic battle. That's against the site guidelines and we ban accounts that do it because, as the guidelines explain, it spoils the curiosity that this site exists for. So would you please stop doing this? If you want more explanation there are plenty of past explanations at these links: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme..…
Do whatever you must do.
The problem for Xi with respect HK and Taiwan is that plenty of mainland tourists will visit and learn from the locals how much they prefer democracy. These values will then seep back into the mainland and the CCP wants to maintain the fiction that democracy doesn't work for Chinese culture. Letting HK continue on for 30 more years might become uncontrable in China.
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Taiwan is factually an independent state and in practice recognised as such by everyone, including the PRC. "Nation state" has a different meaning and that's not really the case for Taiwan. There's a lot of propaganda like for HK, which is popular with the Western public who is naive and not well informed (as all public)
We can go back and forth about this, but political feelings aside, although Taiwan acts like an independent state and has its own government, no important independent state treats it like an independent state, including the US. Donald Trump is the first president in four decades to even send a cabinet-level official to Taiwan when Alex Azar went to visit last month. It is what it is. Whether you like it or not, no im…
Yes and no. Few countries officially treat Taiwan as an independent state but most country unofficially treat it.