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Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86
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Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86
#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only difference is that Google has endlessly more clout and depth than AOL and my fear is that where AOL failed, Google may succeed. With Firefox succumbing this week, this is pretty horrible. I’m not a Richard Stallman type, but I think it’s come to the point where if you have even the slightest pretense of being a “free web” person, using Chrome or a Chromium-based browser has become unconscionable. This compan…
I've been using Firefox/Safari on my personal devices for a couple years now, but as a web developer I unfortunately can't not use Chrome at work because of its dev tools. I try to test on other browsers when I have time - I've always made a point to push for supporting at least Firefox, as an organization - but when I'm iterating I really just need the Chrome tools. Firefox's tools always remained one or two steps b…
I agree about DDG, but not dev tools.
I used to think they weren’t as good, but they are good. And I think I’m a pretty serious dev tools user.
BUT, if you want to keep using Chrome dev tools that doesn’t mean you can’t switch to FF. Just de-personalize Chrome (clear you history, sessions, settings etc) and then you’ll stop using it. Say you’re developing and open a new tab to search something on SO: you won’t be logged in on SO. Same goes with any site. So you’ll instantly realize you’re using Chrome to browse and hop over to FF instead.
Seems like a lot of work but it’s not. Maybe I drank the kool aid but I now feel naked browsing with Chrome and try to avoid it as much as possible. I think the important thing is to stop using Chrome for personal browsing.
Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86
#273Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tried. Tab switching was - for me - horrible compared to Chrome (chrome:swipe down, swipe address bar down, select tab you want from carousel). I kept looking if i missed this obvious feature. I tried to live without it, but Firefox mobile's tab switching just turned out to be a deal breaker for me. If anyone had some tips: please!! I'd vastly prefer using FF on mobile.
This has been reworked in https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.fi... . The URL bar is now at the bottom of the screen, including the tab switch button which is now always within reach of your thumb. On the other hand, I didn't have a problem with tapping the tab select button in the non-beta app, where it's in exactly the same position as it is in Chrome...
The position is configurable. There is a setting that will allow you to move it back where it "belongs".
Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86
#274IMO this is the real reason why they're pushing hard towards this: However, it's also worth considering that making the web address less important, as this feature does, benefits Google as a company. Google's goal with Accelerated Mobile Pages (AMP) and similar technologies is to keep users on Google-hosted content as much as possible, and Chrome for Android already modifies the address bar on AMP pages to hide that…
Yep. The Internet is now "The Google."
Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86
#275Something I haven't seen anyone here bring up yet: many URLs are meaningless to humans past the domain. For an example, look at the top of this page. The only semantic meaning in the URL for this post is `news.ycombinator.com`. The rest, `item?id=24156986`, is meaningless to a human. (But, of course, meaningful to HN's backend.) A lot of (most?) of the URLs on the web are not semantic . They're naked application look…
item?id=24156986 is readable and meaningful
It isn’t meaningful. It’s effectively a pointer. Pointers point to meaningful data but mean nothing by themselves.
Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86
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"Asked by marketing" or something like that. Fucking suits spoil everything. Engineers are in general, more ethical than suits.
Yes, marketing was obsessed with the URL bar all this while.
Wrong logic. Marketing didn't see the opportunity to mislead people till now.
Although in this case, it can be all about further abstracting the URL detail from end user, as I mentioned in another comment.
Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86
#277Wow - top posts are conspiracy theories. "The only reason to do this..." "This is a security issue..." Google has millions / billions of users. From a security standpoint the focus should be entirely on the root domain, that is the only really meaningful root of trust. If you are talking about a security issue - the KEY security issue is ANY lack of clarity around root domain. "Showing the full URL may detract from t…
The strange part there is that this is mobile Chrome following the mobile Safari UX which has never been criticised like this. It's just bizarre.
Even desktop Safari does this by default! And yet no one was outraged.
Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86
#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why exclude FF? It’s good.
Currently. Though Mozilla is giving no clear plans on continuing the projects importance. If anything it seems Mozilla is planning for an eventual sunset. Hoping to have revenue alternatives for when Firefox is irrelevant and they stop supporting it. Firing a team building a meaningful advancement in Firefox's tech stack is a big signal, imo.
Yeah that was devastating this week but maybe it can somehow reverse itself, I don’t know.
Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86
#279Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86
#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
The comparison to AOL was my first thought also. Basically, Google have lived long enough to see themselves become the villain.
Google is many different companies and products, and some of them I'm so grateful for. They provide a simple product that does something magically better than the competition, don't screw with the recipe. I give them my data because I like the service. But the company-wide decision to manipulate the URL as a business strategy drains all my enthusiasm. The "U" is really important! The URL is basically a filename that…
> I give them my data because I like the service.
They take your data and everyone's regardless of if you want them too. That you don't mind hardly makes that better.