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Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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Post by techntoke »

nisa wrote: post #199
techntoke wrote: post #193

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Can only listen/watch state-approved propaganda.

There is a difference between genuine alternative views and just cultish conspiracy content created for clicks that defies any law of physics - is it reasonable to recommend a video from someone who argues the lockdown is not warranted? Why not. Is it reasonable to recommend someone who denies the existence of the virus and want's to sell you his quack treatments? I don't think so.

> is it reasonable to recommend a video from someone who argues the lockdown is not warranted

So you're saying we should censor the President of the United States from Twitter?

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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Post by scarface74 »

heinrichhartman wrote: post #254
scarface74 wrote: post #240

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You really trust the US court system to be impartial? Should Apple/Google be forced to carry pornographic apps? White supremacists apps? Apps that invade people’s privacy? Which government should hold this responsibility? Should we have an international committee deciding this?

I am not talking the US in particular here. I am saying these decisions should be made by courts not by private institutions, that have stakes in that game.

So instead of being made by private companies, they should be made by unelected partisan judges....

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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Post by nelaboras »

nisa wrote: post #82
Crosseye_Jack wrote: post #24

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> asking a web browser app to remove references to all the websites and social media posts Except usually a web browser doesn't include a index of sites, You go to a another site (Google/Bing) for that. If a browser does include "recommended sites" the landing pages of those sites best keep to Google's and Apples rules. For an extreme example, If Firefox was promoting PornHub on the new tab page we could understand w…

YouTube constantly recommends me COVID-19 conspiracy videos since I dared to watch one that was popular here in Germany. Basically on every video I watch I have now german conspiracy videos as recommendations. I did neither like the video or did I subscribe the channel. It's beyond fucked up what Google is doing.

Wait until you get into the dystopian world of clips on YouTube targeted at children.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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Post by scarface74 »

chroem- wrote: post #255
scarface74 wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You really trust the US court system to be impartial? Should Apple/Google be forced to carry pornographic apps? White supremacists apps? Apps that invade people’s privacy? Which government should hold this responsibility? Should we have an international committee deciding this?

Please stop. The more we play this tit-for-tat game of political point scoring, the more it causes the whole system to degenerate. It is corrupting every facet of our society, to the point at which we're no longer able to be objective about life and death matters like the current pandemic.

No I’m just amazed that people are willing to give government more power - the same government who would like nothing more than to have more power to intrude on people’s life.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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Post by scarface74 »

chroem- wrote: post #269
hoorayimhelping wrote: post #264

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You stop. Stop using $current_panic to justify trampling the parts of the constitution and the parts of the system you don't like. These are legitimate questions that need to be answered or we'll just be in a worse place in the future. It's so transparent; any time there's some crisis, whether it's terrorism or guns or drugs or a pandemic, there are always people calling for us to ignore the actual issues of our syst…

? I'm largely agreeing with you. My only point is that we shouldn't allow courts and corporations to become politicized.

Isn’t it a little - like 200+ years - late for that?

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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Post by jerf »

crispyambulance wrote: post #166
detaro wrote: post #148

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If you're logged into YT, you can try deleting the video from your watch history.

Yeah, I've been doing this a lot lately. It's kind of disappointing how easily the recommendations shift once you click on a video that's sketchy. In my case, I once made the bad decision to watch a Jordan Peterson video. By itself it wasn't crazy, he was mildly provocative, a little paternalistic, not my cup of tea. But geez, the trash that then ended up appearing in the side bar after that was awful. I find that if…

"It's kind of disappointing how easily the recommendations shift once you click on a video that's sketchy."

It isn't just "sketchy" videos. Someone linked me to a video of a dog being rescued, which I watched on my logged-in profile, and it was fine and all, but explaining to YouTube that that doesn't mean I'm interested in hearing about every dog ever rescued (since I didn't know about the 'delete from history' trick) has been a lot of "Never show me videos from this channel" button pushed.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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Post by nelaboras »

techntoke wrote: post #193
nisa wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube constantly recommends me COVID-19 conspiracy videos since I dared to watch one that was popular here in Germany. Basically on every video I watch I have now german conspiracy videos as recommendations. I did neither like the video or did I subscribe the channel. It's beyond fucked up what Google is doing.

Can only listen/watch state-approved propaganda.

Yes 5G masts are the cause of covid and need to be all burned down. Vaccines causr autism. Bringing your kids to the doctor is harmful, give them bleach anemas.

No harm in spreading lies and absurd conspiracies, right?

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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Post by rukittenme »

scarface74 wrote: post #240
heinrichhartman wrote: post #211

This is the result of out-sourcing juristic work to private companies: If we treat Android, Window, Twitter, Facebook, as public spaces/goods, then private companies should not have a say in what is allowed/not-allowed on their platforms. This is work for the courts and police to decide and enforce. If we treat those platforms as private. Then we are playing in s/o's backyard. You are totally at their mercy. They hav…

You really trust the US court system to be impartial? Should Apple/Google be forced to carry pornographic apps? White supremacists apps? Apps that invade people’s privacy? Which government should hold this responsibility? Should we have an international committee deciding this?

> Should Apple/Google be forced to carry pornographic apps? White supremacists apps? Apps that invade people’s privacy?

My computer allows racist pornography and its the greatest invention in the history of mankind. As far as I can tell, iPhones have not lived up to that legacy.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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Post by techntoke »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #232
techntoke wrote: post #195

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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fbi-erroneously-reveals-id... Please tell me again how it was justified to attack Iraq, while we continue to bend over for Saudi Arabia? The fear is not justified, never has been, and it is not the time to sign away your freedoms and believe whatever government agencies and corporations tell you.

That comment's only mention of fear is the fear of covid. What are you insultingly responding to?

> The fear is justified and the extreme prejudice against Covid-19 misinformation (most of which has an agenda behind it) is warranted.

This is the same stuff that was said during Iraq War. That it was justified. Later, we found out that it wasn't and that we attacked a country even though it was Saudi Arabia that was primarily responsible.

Now, they are trying to say that extreme measures, such as censoring people with alternative opinions is justified. Who cares if WHO or whatever else agency disagrees. People are capable of making choices for themselves and doing research. Blocking information, just because it may be inaccurate, doesn't justify it. You then have a centralized power determining what information is accurate like the events that lead to the Iraq War.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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Post by chroem- »

scarface74 wrote: post #275
chroem- wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

? I'm largely agreeing with you. My only point is that we shouldn't allow courts and corporations to become politicized.

Isn’t it a little - like 200+ years - late for that?

We're approaching levels of hyperpartisanship not seen since the civil war. I don't think this is a healthy state of being for our country.
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