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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by mceachen »

akvadrako wrote: post #209
coldpie wrote: post #161

Yes. I'm an Android user who is absolutely sick of phablets. I have a Pixel 3A (5.6") and it is way, way too big. I've been quite excited about this iPhone SE announcement. However, the lack of a headphone jack is a huge negative, and 4.7" is the absolute largest I think is reasonable. A little smaller would've been ideal. I'm undecided on whether to switch to the SE, but I genuinely hope it sells like crazy. Then ma…

It isn't about the screen size - it's about the external dimensions. This is almost as large as the Pixel 4A, Samsung S10e or iPhone 11. You are only saving a couple grams and a few mm. Hopefully the Sony Xperia 5 II comes out soon - it should be smaller than this.

> almost as large as ... iPhone 11

See https://www.apple.com/iphone-se/specs/ for a comparison. It's at least a quarter smaller in both dimensions.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by ruffrey »

wool_gather wrote: post #157
ruffrey wrote: post #41

I've been repairing an old iPhone SE for quite a while now, holding out for Apple to listen to customers like me saying "I want a decent phone that fits in my pocket." This makes me so happy, just like when I held onto a 2015 macbook pro until they went back to a "regular" keyboard.

> customers like me saying "I want a decent phone that fits in my pocket." This new one is exactly the same size as the 6, 7, and 8 that have been available for years...what about it has changed the situation for you?

I guess I missed that. Seeing the 4.7 inch screen spec made me think it was smaller than Apple's other current phones, closer to the original SE.

Original SE:

123.8 mm (4.87 in) H

58.6 mm (2.31 in) W

7.6 mm (0.30 in) D

New 2020 SE:

138.4 mm (5.45 in) H

67.3 mm (2.65 in) W

7.3 mm (0.29 in) D

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by zingar »

skrebbel wrote: post #175
parsimo2010 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new iPhone 12 Pro is supposed to have a smaller screen than the 11 Pro and have squared sides, which basically means it will be shaped like the original SE, have a full screen, and the best cameras. Except for the price, the exact phone you want will probably be out later this year.

> shaped like the original SE But bigger, right?

yes :(

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by rvz »

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

I wouldn't buy it at this price right now unless you had bought a iPhone 6S or 5S (They are actually the same, except for the screen size) in the last 2 years.

The removal of the headphone jack was something seen as treasonous for Apple to do at first, but then they will then tell you to purchase wireless earphones instead. Making it impossible to listen to music without being discovered via bluetooth trackers / scanners.

If those aren't problems for you, then it seems to be a reasonable buy for other customers who bought older phones. But if it were me, I would buy one in a year and a half when the price eventually drops further.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by kick »

chaorace wrote: post #35

$399 iPhone? Weird! I always thought Apple stayed out of that pricerange to keep the iPhone line a "prestige" purchase (especially given how little time the "c" lasted for). I suppose that's why this model has such an iPod-esque visual design, so that outside observers don't misconstrue the people using these with their "luxury" users. It's good to see more downward pressure coming from flagship phones lately, imo. I…

The first SE was $399 as well, and that was years ago.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by throwaway287391 »

hajile wrote: post #247
coldpie wrote: post #161

Yes. I'm an Android user who is absolutely sick of phablets. I have a Pixel 3A (5.6") and it is way, way too big. I've been quite excited about this iPhone SE announcement. However, the lack of a headphone jack is a huge negative, and 4.7" is the absolute largest I think is reasonable. A little smaller would've been ideal. I'm undecided on whether to switch to the SE, but I genuinely hope it sells like crazy. Then ma…

My current phone has no headphone jack and it's been an absolute pain the whole time. Adapters are hit-or-miss and generally suck. Even high-end devices (mine was over $800) often have hissing due to the analog signal running fractions of a millimeter from a bunch of digital signals. Adding insult to injury, music objectively sucks with bluetooth. A good DAC takes space and power. Multiple drivers take space and powe…

Comments like this always make me really glad that I've never tried "good" audio equipment. I think music sounds great with my Sony XM3s and even my AirPods, and I don't have to travel with a DAC to experience it. shrug

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by [deleted] »

yabatopia wrote: post #268
andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

> I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. There are plenty of compact and competent phones. A Samsung A40 for example is barely larger than this new iPhone SE, but has a 5.9 inch display. A friend wanted a smallish smartphone and she's quiet happy with the form factor.

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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by wdewind »

save_ferris wrote: post #193
threepio wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most perplexing part has always been the positioning of the SE as the low-price iPhone. As an SE fan, I would happily, HAPPILY pay $1000 every two years to keep getting upgraded internals in the current form factor. Yes Apple, I'm sure it's harder to fit those parts in a smaller case. That's why you should charge me more! It's not a matter of Ludditry. That form factor is ergonomically ideal for a certain kind of…

I have a conspiracy theory that Apple redesigns the form factor every few years so that the "gotta have it" people are forced to upgrade to the latest and greatest device, and those with last gen's model feel that they need to keep up with the Joneses. edit: I think this is a very real, but subconscious aspect of Apple culture and it exists across all of the product lines. Phones just happen to be one of their bigges…

I don't think it's subconscious. It shows up obviously in bezel thickness and radius of corners. When they release a new product the bezel is thick and the corners are very round. As they are able to reduce the bezel size, they also reduce the rounding of the corners. This has the effect of making the last generation look toy-like and the new generation look more serious. They have used this pattern for like 20 years across many product lines.
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