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adittionally to what others have commented, make sure that the room you're working in has enough sunlight and (I can't stress this enough) is well ventilated. It also helps if you can walk outside 5 minutes every hour or so (lawn, terrace, whatever's available). Somewhere where you have open air and you can focus your sight on things that are more than 5 meters away. As for the long commutes, I'm from a big european…
> As for the long commutes, I'm from a big european city and I still have almost a one hour commute to work. Granted, it's public transit so I can use the time somewhat (netflix on my phone, ebooks or whatever) but it's still two hours that I could otherwise use at the gym, having beers with friends or watching a movie. Yeah true. I was thinking more of the American-style car commute. While I agree that time spent co…
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#272I wonder if this is related to the long commutes Americans have gotten used to. I'm not in the US, and while I would say I definitely appreciate the flexibility of being able to work from home (or from "not the office") every now and then, and I do like the present drop in meetings, I cannot fathom how people stay sane without a variety of other people around. My productivity has definitely dropped, and it feels like…
Extrovert / introvert. You're clearly more towards the extrovert part of the spectrum. Please try to have empathy for people on the introverted part of the spectrum who cannot fathom being forced into an office with tons of people distracting them all day every day. Heretofore they (save for a lucky few like me) have been forced to not just fathom it, but live it. The "half" of Americans mentioned in the article prob…
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I can understand but these things are different for each of us. I love my 20 minute low stress commute. I listen to podcasts or think about problems in an isolated day. It breaks work life from home life and helps with boundaries. Obviously some commutes are worse than others but we all have different needs.
People really ought to put the number on their post (like you did; thank you) so we know where they're coming from. I was in the Bay Area, and one of the big reasons I left was the 3-4 hour commute. For a while, it was manageable, as the train provides some ability to work, but towards the end CalTrain was just falling over from lack of capacity. Packed to the gills trains, trains breaking down, hell, even derailment…
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I'll chime in there. Same experience. I've got a nice office upstairs away from everyone. I do two things every single day, all day, in that room by myself, and it feels amazing. I do my work for a few hours, and then I hack on a personal project the rest of the day. Then before bed I catch up with my wife for a couple hours and we watch something. I'm in heaven. Introvert heaven. Communal offices drain my life.
> I do my work for a few hours, and then I hack on a personal project the rest of the day. That does sound like introvert heaven. Your company doesn't hold you accountable to your hours? If I could put in a solid 4 hours of work I would get just as much done as I do in 8, and then have extra time for myself and not the mental anguish of trying and failing to focus that whole time.
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Jealous of what - that they will soon be out of a job?
Right - it is not a rational response to the situation on my part, and this will be the natural consequence for many I’m afraid. The American workforce in particular will never be the same.
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Extrovert / introvert. You're clearly more towards the extrovert part of the spectrum. Please try to have empathy for people on the introverted part of the spectrum who cannot fathom being forced into an office with tons of people distracting them all day every day. Heretofore they (save for a lucky few like me) have been forced to not just fathom it, but live it. The "half" of Americans mentioned in the article prob…
> Extrovert / introvert. You're clearly more towards the extrovert part of the spectrum. That's the thing: I don't consider myself very extroverted! Probably on the extrovert side of the scale, but very moderately so! > Please try to have empathy for people on the introverted part of the spectrum who cannot fathom being forced into an office with tons of people distracting them all day every day. Heretofore they (sav…
I think it comes from discussions as if there is a right to WFH and they’re owed it which can come off a little self righteous and off putting.
The status quo bias is an interesting point, thanks for bringing that up.
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Sounds like you have not yet developed the mindset/means to adapt...but you can if you choose to!
I can adapt to a hot poker in the eye, but I would never choose to. ;-)
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#278I wonder if this is related to the long commutes Americans have gotten used to. I'm not in the US, and while I would say I definitely appreciate the flexibility of being able to work from home (or from "not the office") every now and then, and I do like the present drop in meetings, I cannot fathom how people stay sane without a variety of other people around. My productivity has definitely dropped, and it feels like…
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>Does anyone feel the same?
I can't believe no one mentioned it yet: Mental compartmentalization based on where you are is a very real thing. Everyone experiences it, some more than others, and if you want to be productive working from home, learning how to work with it is of key importance.
For good work from home hygiene it's required that you isolate a physical space dedicated for work only tasks, like a home office.
Some people can get away with having a separate computer or seperate user to separate their space while using the same desk. Having a work account that blockes reddit, ycombinator, youtube, and the like helps, but as a general rule of thumb the easier it is to switch spaces, the smaller the isolation between them. ie, if switching users takes 10 seconds the isolation is small, but if you need to walk two minutes across the house, it's going to be a much stronger isolation. This is one of the tricks the rich use, by having an office far away from their bedroom in their house.
If you don't have things in your room to play with, like a tv or something, then the digital space separation works well, but if you find yourself fiddling with a tv all day while on your work account, it may cause problems. Alternatively, having background noise can help and turning on a ratio or tv in the background while working can accelerate productivity. It depends on your mental frame and how you think of it. In your situation it may be better to set up an ad hawk work space in your kitchen or living room.
This space separation is recommended in just about every work from home guide you will find, and it is a well studied phenomena, going back to the vietnam (or korean I forget) war where they were able to get 98% of solders off of heroin using the same tricks: the addiction was tied to physical cues like a physical room, or a friend. Get rid of those physical cues and the mental part of the addiction would vanish for all but those using drugs to avoid their problems. Same mental process, but studied in a drastically different subject.
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What I wouldn't give for a cube. To my left and right in our open office are engineers who are normally quiet. The row in front of are all business strategy people. They never stop talking. They're on the phone, they're having meetings, they're casually chatting. There's nothing at all to block the sound or the sight of them grouping up in 2s and 6s at each others desk. One even has a rare sight in the office, a desk…
The "cube" I had was a mega-cube with 6 people. Our group was spread among 2 adjacent mega cubes, so the divider was eventually removed, making a 12-person cube. I had an end spot, and I had a portable whiteboard shoved between me and my neighbor to separate us, and I built a wall of empty Hint bottles around my desk to isolate me from the aisle. That removed a lot of visual distractions, but it was still quite noisy…
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I also worked at Google after almost 20 years of working at home. I didn’t mind the cube environment because I worked from about 6am to 3pm, giving me a few hours of quiet heads down time every day. My last job before retiring at Capital One was the same, I started work early in the morning for heads down work time, was available for brainstorming, etc., then knocked off work mid afternoon. I really recommend time sh…
You didn't find that there was pressure to work later? I tend to prefer to come in late because you can control your bound on that, but leaving early makes you look bad (despite the irrationality of that), and its just easy to fall into the habit of "oh just another hour, I will still be home for dinner..." Then there are meetings scheduled for 3-6pm....