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A man owns the most advanced private air force after buying 46 F/A-18s

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Re: A man owns the most advanced private air force after buying 46 F/A-18s

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I think this is "cheaper" like - its cheaper to to have supply chains for critical medical gear in China. Makes for a great target for espionage on military tactics and capabilities for one risk.

I won't say that they offer perfect security, but these are military contractors, not part-timers from a temp agency. They are mostly ex-military (you can't get trained Hornet drivers anywhere else except for a few civilian test pilots), still have to maintain their security clearances, and are subject to security audits. They probably have vulnerabilities but I don't think a training contractor is as juicy of a targ…

Technically, it's not what the US thinks they're capable of, but rather what the contractors the US hires think China/Russia are capable of. The US may know that that China/Russia's actual combat abilities are greater than the contractors do.

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But surely the private pilots training against US military pilots get to see the current tactics, and the private radars and electronic warfare pods get to record the current combat settings of US military radars and electronic warfare systems. There is no way this is not all classified top secret and a major target for foreign intelligence. So all his personnel, pilots and technicians, need clearance as if they were…

It's secure because it's in the contract. The company has to follow US industrial security rules. Written by US DoD. The employees are vetted and hold clearances. Why do you think the USAF (or US Navy) hadn't thought about this?

Agree. Google NISPOM.

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I see that more and more recently, English spelled phonetically. Like "their" instead of "they're" and the example above. Very curious whether it's an American thing or foreigners writing a non-native language.

I'm a brit and do it out of lazyness.

How does that work? Surely deliberately typing the wrong word takes more effort?

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I'm a brit and do it out of lazyness.

How does that work? Surely deliberately typing the wrong word takes more effort?

No. It takes more effort to clearly remember and apply all such distinctions.

These are the sorts of mistakes typically made by native speakers for whom they sound the same and inability to remember that they are spelled differently has zero bearing on spoken fluency. It's a different skill set and a different part of the brain.

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His company buys these things and then has a contract with the Navy for when they do training. So IF I'm reading this correctly, it's not just some random dude buying all this stuff for fun, it's his company and they have a very clear business purpose for doing this. "He was also one of the early pioneers of the then-fledgling, if not wholly experimental, adversary air support market. In the early 2000s, he joined fo…

In that case it's pretty brilliant. I was going to say that the maintenance cost of all those jets is probably pretty impressive

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That's not the secret sauce, in the same sense that keeping source closed doesn't usually improve code quality from a security standpoint. The other counter is there are 26 operators of the F-16. Frankly it would be easier both in practice and legality to get cooperation from some dude in Pakistan or Venezuela than a US citizen who can at least sorta be watched over. Most of the tactics are not terribly advanced in t…

Sigint agencies hoard 0days and know they get "burned" by using them against a serious opponent that records traffic and can analyze and reverse engineer malware. If the 0day is useful against your own systems, you would hesitate to use it before your systems are patched. I think electronic warfare and ECCM systems can have similar dynamics. I always assumed (without any evidence) there is secret firmware or settings…

>I always assumed (without any evidence) there is secret firmware or settings for these systems that will only be used in time of war and not used during training.

I believe the military takes training realism incredibly seriously, and wouldn't dream of "testing in production" with a weapons system.

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Sounds to me like the military is simply shooting itself in the food with its "up or out" policies. Why force highly-trained and experienced people to leave just because they've gotten to a plateau in their career where they're both competent and comfortable? Do foreign militaries also have these policies?

Seems like part of it would be to ensure that you will always be training new pilots. If you have a lot of 'comfortable' pilots, you have less need to do the training, so when you fight a war and start losing pilots, you have less bandwidth to create new ones. So there's a couple of things: You could always recall and retrain the ones you've released if you're low on pilots, that's pretty straightforward for a wartim…

I've always thought the most fascinating part of such sales is if and where backdoors would be put into aircraft and other military exports and how they would be utilised in a scenario. It think I read somewhere about France doing this at one point with fighters.

For example there is no way I'm gonna believe a Saudi F15 doesn't have something that the US could manipulate to its advantage if it chose to.

Of course building a backdoor would mean if an event found it, then could also utilise it. And it would be bad for business if it was found.

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That is the purpose of the Navy, just like all the rest of USA armed forces. They haven't won a war in my parents' lifetimes, but just think of all the trillions of dollars that have gone to armaments manufacturers!

We lost to Grenada?

And Iraq 1991, or Serbia/Kosovo(ish)

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I think a lot of folks are skimming the top of this and missing the really interesting parts. Their focus doesn’t seem to be providing adversaries against pilots, but adversaries against weapons systems. He’s essentially selling organic data to train JTACs against. The goal here isn’t as much great avionics, but great combinations of sensors and sensor jamming. The military focuses on having a combat ready fleet, whi…

I read it all and while it's great that he has a legitimate reason to own these, it doesn't change the fact that he owns a private air force, heavy weapons and state-of-the-art countermeasures. It's a terrifying legal precedent and he's opened the door for a new market niche that less savory people can sneak into. The US already has ludicrously expansive personal rights to weapons ownership for any reason. We have a…

Who are you, Cato the Younger?

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It's quite interesting that Australia wants to let these go in favor of the F-35, rather than maintaining them in a reserve capacity. Letting the F-111 go in favor of the F/A-18 made a lot of sense because they were obsolescent and expensive to operate. In this case, I wonder if they might regret it if they ever face a period of increased military tensions.

The new generation of birds completely walk over last gen. For a nation with a limited military budget, staying on the cutting edge is all we can do.
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