The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10 • Hacker News Board

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by oarsinsync » Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 2:48 PM UTC

scarface74 wrote: post #248

readhn wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft or Adobe can afford to make a billion dollar mistake.

Why would Microsoft keep developing a product for 7 years if there were no interest?

The Zune was launched in 2006 and discontinued in 2012. Why did that product last 6 years?

I’m not saying Office for iPad is pointless (I use it regularly, so quite the opposite!), but I do think it’s foolish to think an organisation the size of Microsoft’s doesn’t necessarily do things for obvious reasons. Individual incentives do not always lend themselves to data driven objectives.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by throw0101a » Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 2:48 PM UTC

The iPad (and tablets in general) have really changed the game when it comes to flying. So many private pilots use e-charts nowadays: I'd love to see the sales figures on paper charts over the last decade.

Even commercial crews (CPL, ATPL) are using them, and no longer have to lug around booklets.

For 'redundancy' people often don't use paper, but have multiple electronic devices as well.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by takanori » Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 2:49 PM UTC

It’s an $11 Billion dollar hardware business that’s double the size of the Mac.

IMHO, the biggest innovation is that an enterprise can purchase one of these interest free for ~$20 / month (no interest) and get a brand new one in 3 years through Apple’s enterprise sales.

Hardware sold as a service. $11B.

I think the focus on multitasking misses the real innovation.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by pcurve » Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 2:49 PM UTC

dangus wrote: post #254

gwbas1c wrote: post #247

> The iPad at 10 is, to me, a grave disappointment. The biggest disappointment to me is that I can't buy a Macbook that converts into a tablet. I've never owned a tablet, and my wife never replaced her 1st generation iPad, because there's just too much overlap between tablet and phone; and between tablet and laptop. And, as far as multitasking goes: When I do serious work that requires that kind of multitasking, I ne…

On the contrary, Apple is the only one who has this market figured out. Ever see anyone at a coffee shop using a Surface Pro in tablet mode? I haven’t. That’s because the second you sit down to complete tasks for more than a minute or two you’ll want a keyboard at least if not a mouse, too. In my view that eliminates productivity as a legitimate use for a tablet. There’s no way I’d prefer touching my screen to the ki…

Yeah tablet serves generally different market, but it can also meets needs of existing laptop users who just want more portable media consumption device, whether around bedroom, bathroom, or on a plane on business trip where you're likely to have locked-down work-issued PC.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by ngcc_hk » Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 2:50 PM UTC

I recently bought 3 ipad (and two e-ink one) as a replacement of book and reference. The ipad is great as it can be used and sync ... it works great with my MacBook Pro.

It is a good part of the ecosystem.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by shams93 » Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 2:50 PM UTC

It's become a platform for music production. A lot of music apps like beatmaker3 only exist on the iPad. It's replaced the computer for me as my daw system for music production.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by ngcc_hk » Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 2:52 PM UTC

Fiahil wrote: post #269

I completely agree with this article. The iPad hardware is absolutely wonderful, it's light, gorgeous and powerful. I got the latest iPad pro to watch Netflix in bed and it fills that purpose completely. However, the OS running on the machine is bad. Very bad. The multitasking is horrifying. The Files app is unusable (especially if you want to access your files from an FTP server). You have to use your finger to sele…

The file system if you use it is a god sent. You can share files, organised files ... not as good as lap top one but it is good enough especially if you have an macbook to arrange and tag files.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by wenc » Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 2:52 PM UTC

Jemm wrote: post #123

My main gripe is that Apple chose to very aggressively kill or sleep apps running in the background. I can understand this from a battery perspective but why not give us an option to let certain apps run in the background, especially when the iPad is plugged in to power. As an example, if I start a download in Safari, I can’t use a different app until Safari finishes the download. I could use split-screen but who wan…

iPadOS 13 supports downloading in the background.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by lobster45 » Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 2:52 PM UTC

pcurve wrote: post #257

GolDDranks wrote: post #245

I bought my first and only tablet, an iPad, two years back. I havent't much used it since then. I bet it would be great for reading and watching videos, but the moment I want to type something, I just become needlessly irritated and switch back to my MacBook Pro. It's not just typing on a touch screen; that's awful, but then I bought a keyboard. But using the Dvorak layout, Scandinavian letters and Japanese input in…

Not to be funny, but I had almost 500 subscriptions to youtube channels. On desktop, Youtube made it deliberately hard to unsubscribe (it used to be easier), on ipad, the experience is much better. I also find netflix ux less crappy on ipad than on desktop.

The aspect ratio of the iPad is not great for video which is mostly a widescreen format. I really don’t like losing so much screen real estate. Sometimes I prefer my iPhone XS Max to watch a video on than my iPad Air. I specifically bought a kindle Fire 10” tablet to watch videos. Everything else on the iPad is superior to the kindle

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by ghaff » Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 2:53 PM UTC

gherkinnn wrote: post #214

ghaff wrote: post #108

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Mostly disagree. The camera progression on newer iPhones is a big differentiator [for many]. Also I don’t more or less always have an iPad in a pocket like I do a phone.

Camera is true. Speaking for myself, I’m a hopeless photographer and the iPhone X’ camera won’t save me.

One big difference with the newer phones is low light performance. I have a bunch of "real" cameras but I so often don't have them with me if I haven't set out with the explicit intention to take pictures.

>I’m a hopeless photographer

Like anything else you can learn. You may not transform yourself into a great photographer but learning some simple rules and practicing a bit will take you a long way. Smartphones have limitations relative to interchangeable lens cameras. But there's a lot you can do with them.