For personal projects and client work I prefer a VPS with fixed pricing. Many have quoted Digital Ocean on this thread but you get much more for your money with a VPS from Hetzner.com. $11.75/month = 8Gb RAM, 2 CPUs, 80Gb SSD and 20Tb of traffic. That's 4 times the RAM, 2 times the CPU and 10 times the traffic compared with a $10 Digital Ocean VPS.
Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run
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Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run
#272I was tinkering with it recently. My problem was .. support.
After a lot of double-checking on my part, I was finally convinced that Cloud Run messed things up (in my case: A Content-Type header was changed from ThingsISend to text/html and broke every client). The issue tracker is hard to find and more or less abandoned, SO wasn't helpful (but had people that .. love Google Cloud Run and didn't believe me) and only after tweeting a bit someone looked into it.
The issue is fixed now, which is nice. The way to get there was ... questionable?
Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run
#273Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hope GCP/AWS add a max spend ability. Until then it's complexity of pricing model vs time spent on OS and database management. To each their own.
The trouble with this is what do you do when your "max spend" is reached? Shut everything down? Shut parts of it down? Most "real world" systems aren't built to have the stool kicked from underneath them like that, so there will be data/business loss and pissed off customers (and in the case of Cloud also pissed off customers' customers).
The conversation was about side-projects where it's better to have it shut down than drain the owner's checking account. The alternative being an overloaded web server that becomes unavailable.
Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run
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I ordered a phone from Google that's been lost in delivery. I have Gmail/documents/photos/music... Should I do a charge-back? Sue them in small claims court? I should never have done business with them.
Same thing happened to me once. I called google support and they send me another phone.
Same here. It seems very unlikely they would not resend a phone lost in delivery. When it happened to me, they immediately ordered a replacement device.
Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run
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I had the same thoughts: even if I like Google Cloud a lot (I use it extensively at work), I don’t feel it’s safe for me to use it at home, since I don’t want to risk having my entire google account locked due to “suspicious activity”, whatever that might mean. In fact, I recently shut down a personal App Engine service I had been using for myself for a few years just because of this paranoia. The service was not doi…
I ordered a phone from Google that's been lost in delivery. I have Gmail/documents/photos/music... Should I do a charge-back? Sue them in small claims court? I should never have done business with them.
Just contact them and they'll send you another one, like pretty much any retailer.
Packages get lost all the time. They have a process to file it with their shipping partner.
Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run
#276I have used it for work-related reasons and indeed the service is quite nice. But I don't use Google Cloud Run for personal projects for two reasons: - No way of limiting the expenses AFAIK. I don't want the possibility of having a huge bill on my name that I cannot pay. This unfortunately applies to other clouds. - The risk of being locked out. For many, many reasons (including the above), you can get locked out of…
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Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run
#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had the same thoughts: even if I like Google Cloud a lot (I use it extensively at work), I don’t feel it’s safe for me to use it at home, since I don’t want to risk having my entire google account locked due to “suspicious activity”, whatever that might mean. In fact, I recently shut down a personal App Engine service I had been using for myself for a few years just because of this paranoia. The service was not doi…
I used to use google docs until they randomly locked one of the docs I was working on for a week due to one of their "suspicious activity" scripts. Really hammered in the message that if you don't host it then you don't own it.
I think the issue is you aren’t paying for it, so you don’t own it. Paid hosted services cannot pull this crap.
Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run
#278I wont use this for the simple reason that I bought into the Google Appengine stack in the past and it really bit me for several reasons: They force-upgraded the java version. The problem was their their own libraries didn’t work with the new version and we had to rewrite a ton of code. It ended up being insanely expensive at scale. We were totally locked-in to their system and the way it did things. This would be fi…
My 6-7 year old app running almost free with about 2-3 updates. I think for bigger projects where it's start to become problematic.
Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run
#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used to use google docs until they randomly locked one of the docs I was working on for a week due to one of their "suspicious activity" scripts. Really hammered in the message that if you don't host it then you don't own it.
I think the issue is you aren’t paying for it, so you don’t own it. Paid hosted services cannot pull this crap.
Paid hosted services can and do pull this crap, and it’s not just Google.
“Digital Ocean killed our company” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20064169
Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run
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Is this not typical for...literally every use case? No one has an unlimited budget.
Depends - if your profits increase in line with your expenses, you might be raking in the ad revenue/views/sales/whatever because your product 'went viral' and you might prefer to keep it up. Or if the rise in costs is something you can mitigate on your end - such as a bad deployment - you might want time to respond yourself, rather than your site going offline. More generally, few site reliability engineers are look…
> More generally, few site reliability engineers are looking to add extra ways for the site to be taken offline.
SRE 101 is rate limiting everything and protection against DDoS. With cloud and auto scaling risks of DDoS are less about uptime but more about getting a bill that will bankrupt the business.