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Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#271
Apple is just milking their over priced pile of garbage as long as they can.

This kind of reminds me of the situation long ago with Windows and how they did not want to allow any other browsers expect IE on their OS. It took a long time to give developers freedom and access to API's to develop application on the OS. This feel like it's pivoted similarly to the App Stores now a days (even you Google).

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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FYI: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/bury-the-lede-... I'll keep using the actual word , thank you.

If you insist on using journalism jargon, why not use it in its intended, original form? I for one am not a language purist, you can change expressions any way you see fit but... I mean... The expression is still bury the lede .

The article they posted says that "lead" was the original form, and "lede" was introduced in 2008.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#273

> Apple takes 30% and that is not sustainable to run a company and pay salleries Oh, guess what? Apple also has to run a company and pay salaries. Who would've thought?

Hard to feel sympathetic about a company that literally has fights with local city councils about their humongous all glass company headquarters

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#274

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> And Apple taking 30% of that... for what? Payment processing uhhh.. hosting and bandwidth for potentially millions of downloads and updates and your videos and screenshots? Covering user refunds? A reviews and feedback system? Crash logs? Showing you in user searches? The Editor's Choice and Featured Apps lottery? Invitations to develop for yet-to-be announced platforms? Giving your users peace of mind that your ap…

None of which you can opt out of. I'd happily host my own apps and pay the hosting/bandwidth than pay the $99 a year for Apple Developer Account + 30% of all sales. But Apple won't let me, if I want my app to run on iOS I have no choice BUT to use their bandwidth.

Ah, 30% of the ~3 billion Tinder or any successful business is worth it for "band width"? Yeah, no. Not sure how this even became a norm for people to look so blindly. It's absolutely insane to even think about.. we're almost talking about 1 3rd of the entire business value for hosting!?

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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If you insist on using journalism jargon, why not use it in its intended, original form? I for one am not a language purist, you can change expressions any way you see fit but... I mean... The expression is still bury the lede .

The article they posted says that "lead" was the original form, and "lede" was introduced in 2008.

As a standalone word, yes. The expression is, nevertheless, "bury the lede", and always* has been.

* since the 1970s when it first surfaced.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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You’re not allowed to create a crippled or discounted version per the App Store rules. You are allowed to make the same version available elsewhere and pocket the margins. This is what BBEdit has been doing for many years for example.

I know a number of apps that sell both on and off the App Store and cripple the latter. Where does it say this is against the rules?

What apps do this? How do they distribute on iOS without the App Store?

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#277

To the owner of this website: for the love of god, please get someone to proofread your work.

And also... light grey text on a white background? Are they trying to get us to use their product just to read their website? I got the urge to scan it to improve the contrast.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#278

> Apple takes 30% and that is not sustainable to run a company and pay salleries Oh, guess what? Apple also has to run a company and pay salaries. Who would've thought?

30% is egregious. It's what I hate about Google/Apple/Amazon and why I've always refused to buy music from their services. Bandcamp charges 10~15%. Buy a CD directly from a band at a show and they pocket most of that money. Apple is one of the largest companies in the world. They've done so with bullshit like this and I wish people would stop supporting this broken business model. https://informationisbeautiful.net/v…

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Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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30% is high but it’s not just payment processing, it’s payment fraud insulation, download bandwidth, and marketplace amplification (people finding your app without knowing they’re looking for your app). Apple also drops subscription costs from the second year on to 15% which is coming back to reality. I personally find the subscription model way more sustainable & less user hostile than the paid versioning upgrade mo…

>marketplace amplification this never happens, if you JUST upload your app to the store and think it will take off coz it has good features then good luck. In reality you have to upload and then pay some app advertisement agency to feed your app to the multiple tech blogs to inorganically promote it. App store is full of inorganically promoted trash nowadays

I'm not saying apple takes you from 0 to millions of downloads, I'm saying that the marketplace does find you new customers. I buy/subscribe to lots of stuff that I find through the editor callouts or through organic search and Apple has a probably wildly inflated number for how much they drive downloads, but its definitely higher than 0%.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Actually; now that I think about it, from a user perspective I also really dislike the App Store. I used to _love_ it, I would check weekly for new things, maybe there was some new shiny (often beautiful) program to do something really well. The experience was on the 'better than passable' side, nobodies favourite interface maybe, but certainly not terrible. But I actually avoid the App Store these days, both on MacO…

I’ve also stopped “check[ing] weekly for new things”, but that’s because I don’t need any new things! Do you? I don’t have Instagram but I imagine it’s a bit like the App Store. I’m waiting somewhere. I’m bored. I know, I’ll check for a shiny thing. Oh, no shiny thing. That was disappointing. To compare, do you go to the internet regularly and check for new things? I don’t think this is the App Store’s fault. It’s no…

> (~== Not necessarily equal to. Did I just invent that?)

Instead of inventing new operators in your sentences, you can also just stick with plain English

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