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iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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True, but only by the standards of traditional photography... The standard iPhone lens (26mm) has always been pretty much normal for phone camera lenses. When Apple introduced the second lens (51mm), they called it "telephoto," even though that focal length is pretty much dead-on the traditional definition for a "standard" lens. No traditional photographer would call a 51mm lens a telephoto lens. So, for people who g…

Can we please speak in terms of angle of view? Converting everything to "35mm SLR equivalent" focal lengths is tiresome and misleading. The main camera on an iPhone has a 70-degree field of view, which most people consider wide.

While I agree with you (hobbyist DSLR photog with everything from 14mm to 500mm lenses) that field of view is more precise, I think most people don't know the correlation between the two. I'd say that far more people in the general population understand the 35mm equivalent.

The main camera is a wide by traditional standards, but not by phone camera standards, where the main (primary, "normal") camera has always been a wide angle, so nobody whose primary camera is a phone would think of it as wide.

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I feel for all camera manufacturers. Why isn't there a Canon or Nikon or Sony cloud service where photos are sent to? Why haven't the big camera companies embraced computation in their cameras? Do DSLR bodies even have GPS capabilities for tagging photos? It feels like there's no innovation in the camera space outside of Apple and Google.

Very few DSLR bodies have GPS capability built in. This is kind of stupid because integrating a modern GNSS receiver would have only a trivial impact on size, weight, cost, and battery life. The odd thing is that GPS is somewhat common on much cheaper compact cameras. Some of DSLR manufacturers do offer fragile, awkward GPS accessories that you can plug in externally. And they generally provide some sort of geo-taggi…

> GPS does have some limitations for photography because it takes a while to lock on

My Canon offers multiple GPS modes, including periodic sampling even in standby mode, and "always on", for this reason.

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I feel for the compact camera manufacturers. Smartphones killed the 2/3" sensor market. Now they've killed the 1" sensor market too. Micro 4/3 is stale with no major sensor advancements for years now. What's left, APS-C and up?

Amateurs rarely benefit from pro grade equipment. Atleast photography is somewhat cheap as a hobby. I see friends buying expensive amps or guitars because so and so uses them and they end up still sounding the same. People who were buying all these cameras, were never photographers to begin with, they jsut wanted something to record their memories with, and a smartphone is amazing for that. If you compare like to lik…

> Amateurs rarely benefit from pro grade equipment. Atleast photography is somewhat cheap as a hobby. I see friends buying expensive amps or guitars because so and so uses them and they end up still sounding the same.

This doesn't follow. Photography can be astoundingly expensive as a hobby or otherwise. Lenses into the five digit reason, many in the thousands. You can buy expensive lenses, bodies, flashes, tripods etc. I don't think most people see photography as a cheap hobby, once you get beyond the bottom tier Point n Shoot, or entry level APS-C DSLR with kit lens.

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Just wondering how much this is really just software performing the "upgrade"? The Pixel 3 camera app made every camera better in the end.

The new iPhone camera looks pretty sweet but the part that I'm starting to disagree with is what they call, "semantic rendering." This is where the camera recognizes different things in the photo and treats them different like sharpening some areas, smoothing others, etc. To me this this aspect feels like basically an Instagram filter. Are we going for accuracy or how pleasing the photos are? They're definitely more…

There is no such thing as an accurate image. What your brain sees when it looks at an image is totally different from what it would see if it was standing in front of the lens. And what my brain would see is different still.

Lenses are subjective. The question is: what do you want to see, and what lenses see that?

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Amateurs rarely benefit from pro grade equipment. Atleast photography is somewhat cheap as a hobby. I see friends buying expensive amps or guitars because so and so uses them and they end up still sounding the same. People who were buying all these cameras, were never photographers to begin with, they jsut wanted something to record their memories with, and a smartphone is amazing for that. If you compare like to lik…

> Amateurs rarely benefit from pro grade equipment. Atleast photography is somewhat cheap as a hobby. I see friends buying expensive amps or guitars because so and so uses them and they end up still sounding the same. This doesn't follow. Photography can be astoundingly expensive as a hobby or otherwise. Lenses into the five digit reason, many in the thousands. You can buy expensive lenses, bodies, flashes, tripods e…

I have those cameras and lenses you're referring to. I've sunk in over 20K over the past many years. I still think its inexpensive compared to what I see others doing. For e.g. Cars :) :)

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So I want to throw out something quickly - just because someone claims a photo has been shot on an iPhone doesn't mean that they shot it in the same way as you or I would. Lots of people have special lenses that they attach in front of the iPhone camera lens to get a macro / wide angle view. They almost always shoot RAW with an app that supports this. They also use a mini tripod to stabilize the photo and use techniq…

The author has claimed that these are unedited pictures. Do you have any information that contradicts this?

It seems very unlikely that they are unedited. Any link to that claim? I just re skimmed the article and didn’t find anything along those lines.

For example I would guess this pic has some photoshop to emphasize the light and atleast some simple Lightroom.

https://bit.ly/2kSXgc8

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My DSLR is aging out...they've changed lens mounts (manufacturers seem to do that just long enough to blow the cost benefit of keeping lenses long term...I use my phone for 98% of my photos. The last one I actually printed out (a panorama) came from my iPhone XS Max. I just can't justify a $1200 camera purchase to replace my Sony A57...and I'm a little sad about it.

It must have been the move to mirrorless that forced a mount change. Even Nikon abandoned their F mount line (which started in 1959) and introduced Z mount for their mirrorless.

Also given how often Sony is churning out new cameras these days, going secondhand will save you serious dough.

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Please don't conflate different terms for the purpose of making a glib point. It really doesn't help the conversation. They are different words because they mean different things.

From the perspective of a consumer, the difference is totally irrelevant. Why should the particulars of the exchange between the shill and the company matter to me? They don't.

The Verge regularly gets review units from Apple. Their editor, Joshua Topolsky, is not what you would describe as warm and enthusiastic about Apple and their products. When The Verge reviews an iPhone, they are not them engaging in advertising for Apple. If you think every tech outlet is a shill for the manufacturers, then you're just plain wrong about how the world works.

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Yeah, there's also the benefits you get from longer exposures and the ability to swap lenses. I carry an Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8 and Panasonic 100-300mm f/4-5.6, which gives me a massive focal length range to play with in a relatively small package. For a hobbyist like me M43 is great and won't be replaced by a cell phone any time soon. And as much as I'd like an A7iii I can't justify the extra cost and lens size for w…

I recently sold my M43 gear that I primarily used for video (GH5, GH5S), but I had to hang on to my GX85 and Oly 12-40mm f/2.8 for photos -- perfect little walk around combo! Then I accidentally broke the GX85, and it didn't take long to get the itch to take photos again. So I finally made the jump to full frame with a used A7RII. Man, big difference. In image quality and size of course. Not trying to convert you, M4…

Wish you wouldn’t have shown me that.. this time next year I’ll be surrounded by a pile of Sony GM Lenses.
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