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Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

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Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

#271
The author complains about Pocket, but I actually really like it. The quality of articles is good, and it isn’t just full of clickbait like a lot of other news feeds.

The browser does use your browsing history to decide which articles to show you, but they claim that information does not leave your device. The browser downloads the full list of articles onto your device and filters them there.

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

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> I wouldn't mind if Mozilla did the same thing. Then there would literally be no point to Firefox existing as a counterbalance to Google deciding the web's future.

Theoretically they could still focus on developing a privacy-first browser on top of the core engine, and continue to influence web standards by implementing them as plugins with some glue patches maintained as a running fork on top of the Chromium code. As it is now, the fact that Firefox uses Quantum instead of Blink and SpiderMonkey instead of V8 isn't really a differentiator for the vast majority of users. There'…

Brave is trying that approach. It feels like an uphill battle, but time will tell.

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

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I haven't really met anyone who is particularly bothered by these issues. They certainly should be addressed to some degree, but the issues I find people are bothered about in Firefox are something that Mozilla has very little control over: Bugs in sites. As a full-time firefox user, I commonly find that sites have bugs, and when I boot it up in Chrome just to check my hunch, they don't manifest. It's pretty easy to…

I don't remember many times that I encountered Firefox-specific web bugs. I've had bugs where the site doesn't work in Firefox but works in Chrome, but as far as I can tell, those were always caused by the aggressive privacy settings I use in Firefox (whereas the Chrome profile is mostly default). I'm not particularly concerned with the article's complaint about onboarding. The problem is that Firefox is simply sligh…

Or you can install brave and not deal with anything

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

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The reason why I stopped using Firefox and switched was their clear and complete disregard of their users. I had enough during the recent addon pocalypse. It was clear that they were just simply FORCING their users hands to follow what THEY want. I started using Firefox BECAUSE of the freedom it gave me to make my browser the way I want it, whether using addons or CSS styles. But now, go to the addon page and make a search and most of the results I find are themes!!!

Call it a conspiracy or whatever you like, but I hope all the money Firefox leaders are getting from Google is not just to help them kill firefox for the benefit of Google.

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

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The problem with this is that the web is competing with native apps. Only for certain things. A lot of web browsing is still pure information-consumption. The "native apps" are also turning into effective webapps, thanks to Electron and the like. Even this site, which is interactive, doesn't require JS to use (it provides some enhancements, but the site is still quite usable without.)

Google's practices pushing web non-standards haphazardly are so heinous that even Electron can't usually handle general web apps, like WhatsApp (especially) because it depends on Chrome-specific, not even Chromium, features. Many others are the same way.

Can you cite this? I'm collecting a laundry list of reasons Google has degraded the web, and this is certainly evidence.

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

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The author complains about Pocket, but I actually really like it. The quality of articles is good, and it isn’t just full of clickbait like a lot of other news feeds. The browser does use your browsing history to decide which articles to show you, but they claim that information does not leave your device. The browser downloads the full list of articles onto your device and filters them there.

I never understood the opposition (at least on HN) to Mozilla's integration of Pocket into Firefox. Pocket is a superb tool, and it's completely optional.

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

#278
I don't really get most of this stuff about Firefox vs. Chrome. I guess Chrome might be slightly faster or something, but for me personally I don't have a reason to switch. It's fast enough.

I originally went to Firefox because of Vimperator. There simply hasn't been a compelling reason for me to switch away.

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

#279

I haven't really met anyone who is particularly bothered by these issues. They certainly should be addressed to some degree, but the issues I find people are bothered about in Firefox are something that Mozilla has very little control over: Bugs in sites. As a full-time firefox user, I commonly find that sites have bugs, and when I boot it up in Chrome just to check my hunch, they don't manifest. It's pretty easy to…

>I haven't really met anyone who is particularly bothered by these issues

This is a game of reducing friction incrementally, not big ticket bothered by it

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