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Google Plans to Deprecate FTP URL Support in Chrome

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Re: Google Plans to Deprecate FTP URL Support in Chrome

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Post by tim58 »

UncleMeat wrote: post #222
userbinator wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Transferring files over HTTP or more modern protocols is the future My direct and blunt rebuttal is "I don't care". The future is worthless without the present, and more importantly, the past. The continued effective destruction of history that these big tech companies are doing with their actions is a disturbing trend.

Why doesn't HN support http login then? It's part of the spec.

A platform should support the entire spec. An app should correctly implement the parts of the spec it chooses.

Re: Google Plans to Deprecate FTP URL Support in Chrome

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Post by cameronbrown »

Kye wrote: post #263
dmix wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just hope this isn't like how Google basically killed off RSS when they killed off the best client that everyone was using (which I've still never heard a good reason why) which I believe played a role in the decline of everyone having a blog. And yes I know there's some niche support still, just as FTP will live on.

RSS is still alive and well. Podcasting depends on it.

Don't jinx it! Luminary and Apple Podcasts are trying to add exclusive content now.

Re: Google Plans to Deprecate FTP URL Support in Chrome

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Post by derefr »

jsnell wrote: post #240
tln wrote: post #238

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> There are 100,000s of resources [...] major blow for information storage Thats a very small fraction of all the resources. > It is obvious that the next FTP related headline we see from Google is when (not, if) they drop FTP links from all Google search results. There's no point them listing FTP urls in the results if their own browser can't connect to them. This is a worthy concern, for sure. Although how do you k…

> Do you have a search that shows ftp: urls? Sure, searching for "rfc 1337 inurl:ftp" returns FTP urls for the top four results for me.

I wonder if any FTP was spoken by the spider to discover those resources, or whether those are just opaque FTP links discovered embedded in HTTP resources, that were not crawled further.

Re: Google Plans to Deprecate FTP URL Support in Chrome

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Post by JoshMnem »

Kye wrote: post #263
dmix wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just hope this isn't like how Google basically killed off RSS when they killed off the best client that everyone was using (which I've still never heard a good reason why) which I believe played a role in the decline of everyone having a blog. And yes I know there's some niche support still, just as FTP will live on.

RSS is still alive and well. Podcasting depends on it.

RSS/Atom is alive but not well. It needs more support.

Re: Google Plans to Deprecate FTP URL Support in Chrome

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Post by JoshMnem »

cameronbrown wrote: post #272
Kye wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RSS is still alive and well. Podcasting depends on it.

Don't jinx it! Luminary and Apple Podcasts are trying to add exclusive content now.

Podcasts that only work if you buy Apple's hardware? That sounds terrible.

Re: Google Plans to Deprecate FTP URL Support in Chrome

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Post by tacotime »

shscs911 wrote: post #254
Jaruzel wrote: post #221

There are 100,000s of resources on publicly accessible FTP servers and the removal of direct access to these files via one of the worlds most used browsers is major blow for information storage and retrieval on the internet. It is obvious that the next FTP related headline we see from Google is when (not, if) they drop FTP links from all Google search results. There's no point them listing FTP urls in the results if…

Its not just Chrome, Firefox is planning to deprecate it as well ( https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/google/chrome-and-fire... ). Relevant Bugzilla ticket ( http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85464 )

Whaaat? They came for the RSS feeds and I said nothing...

Bugzilla.mozilla.org is offline, here's a mirror: https://web.archive.org/web/20190520010425/http://bugzilla.m...

and relevant quotes posted there (a year ago!): "I think we should mark this bug as WONTFIX. We have a vague plans of deprecating FTP completely in Firefox, there is no point in adding more code in this area." "Since we (sooner or later) would like to deprecate FTP completely, we should not add more code in that area to our codebase."

Re: Google Plans to Deprecate FTP URL Support in Chrome

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Post by jsnell »

derefr wrote: post #273
jsnell wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you have a search that shows ftp: urls? Sure, searching for "rfc 1337 inurl:ftp" returns FTP urls for the top four results for me.

I wonder if any FTP was spoken by the spider to discover those resources, or whether those are just opaque FTP links discovered embedded in HTTP resources, that were not crawled further.

They're crawled, and the full content is indexed. (You can see a text snippet, and some of the results aren't actually RFC 1337 but other RFCs referring to it).

Re: Google Plans to Deprecate FTP URL Support in Chrome

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Post by elliotec »

syshum wrote: post #268
dmix wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just hope this isn't like how Google basically killed off RSS when they killed off the best client that everyone was using (which I've still never heard a good reason why) which I believe played a role in the decline of everyone having a blog. And yes I know there's some niche support still, just as FTP will live on.

I use RSS every day, I have 3 stops when I want to check on current events, my RSS Feeds, Reddit, and here...

Please share your favorite RSS client

Re: Google Plans to Deprecate FTP URL Support in Chrome

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Post by tln »

derefr wrote: post #273
jsnell wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you have a search that shows ftp: urls? Sure, searching for "rfc 1337 inurl:ftp" returns FTP urls for the top four results for me.

I wonder if any FTP was spoken by the spider to discover those resources, or whether those are just opaque FTP links discovered embedded in HTTP resources, that were not crawled further.

Yes, google has a cache of some FTP links, as found by GPs query.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TaTfcCq...

Re: Google Plans to Deprecate FTP URL Support in Chrome

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Post by qzx_pierri »

syshum wrote: post #264
shscs911 wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not just Chrome, Firefox is planning to deprecate it as well ( https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/google/chrome-and-fire... ). Relevant Bugzilla ticket ( http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85464 )

Not Surprising given Mozilla Stance to duplicate and support everything Google does in a effort to chase relevancy again Mozilla has lost the ability to be an independent protector of the Open Web

It's sad because they don't need to. Quantum is great, and you can remap your keybinds and use MaterialFox to get (almost) the exact same experience. Of course your average pleb won't go through this effort, but people need to know how good Firefox has gotten.

And to the people who disagree: Firefox has always been great, but it often came with a lot of bugs and inconveniences. It didn't use to be as accessible.

https://github.com/muckSponge/MaterialFox

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