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Re: 8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now

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Apparently this marks US Mass shooting #250 for 2019 (this was the 215th day of the year). [1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/03/el-pas...

From the numbers in the article, that sounds like a stretch. Either "mass" means just two or more dead, or they're counting injuries.

I think it’s both

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I think part of the problem here is when articles like that like to use titles such as: "Young women are getting richer, as young men get poorer- More millennial men are earning less, even with the gender pay gap in their favor, the U.S. Census Bureau reports" This isn't a men vs women thing. It's a young adult thing, and like you said it's something cultural and societal. The fact that young women are getting educat…

Thats not how I read it at all. It is of course great young women are being educated. However, if you women are more educated than young men then it is possible for the 'average years of education' stat to be going up while the corresponding stat for men is going down. It would be odd to say that 'young men are less educated than the average young person' because men and women essentially completely partition the spa…

I just think coming at it from the angle that article did (re: the article title) is framing things the wrong way. The census report they used is more in line with what I think we're both saying here:

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publicatio...

Re: 8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now

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To add to the possible causes/reasons that people have already replied with, I'd suggest that in countries with mandatory voting, there is a natural tension that keeps parties from straying too far from the centre (i.e. where most of the citizenry sit). In countries with optional voting regimes, those that feel disenfranchised or cynical or apathetic don't vote, while those with extremist views are probably less incl…

As someone that lives in Australia but comes from a similar country with optional voting (NZ), Australia's mandatory voting regime seems very much like choosing a government by chance - if voters don't know enough to vote without it being compulsory, they don't suddenly know any more by making them vote, and forcing a bunch of low information voters to go and vote anyway doesn't seem like it's going to get a good out…

The founding principles of the USA prevent things like compulsory voting laws. It is illiberal, and contrary to the principles. I don't know what the founding principles of Australia are/ were, but I'm pretty sure it was a Commonwealth country until somewhat recently.

The unease from the industrial revolution, 2 world wars, and the Great Depression allowed much of the original American vision to be eroded for expediency. People who fail to understand history, are doomed to repeat it.

Re: 8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now

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According to gunviolencearchive ( https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ ), there were 251 mass shootings in the USA since the beginning of 2019. I don't know if this number is correct, but I just can't understand why guns are still allowed in USA.

Those numbers usually include suicides

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Explain to me the important differences between /pol/ and Al Queda, that would make the US military choose not to order drone strikes on /pol/ operatives

/pol/ is not an organization. It's a loose community of people, almost none of whom have done anything worse than expressing terrible opinions. Shootings are incentivized by /pol/ and frequently announced there, but they're not planned on /pol/. I don't think "/pol/ operatives" meaningfully exist.

Some /pol/ members have committed acts of mass murder.

Al Queda is also a loose organization without explicit membership, etc.

I don’t see any difference between the two organizational structures from an anti terror perspective (though Al Queda might sometimes organize humanitarian actions — Many Islamic terrorist groups have a recruiting arm that does this sort of thing, and I can’t keep them straight anymore)

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There's a huge wage gap with young women outearning men. The number of poor young men is getting higher. Men are increasingly less educated relatively. https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/B03E1C0B-B635-456... Oh and literally everything is mens fault. Now actually I agree that a lot of this is individual mens faults but theres also something cultural and societal that we need to address as a society

I think part of the problem here is when articles like that like to use titles such as: "Young women are getting richer, as young men get poorer- More millennial men are earning less, even with the gender pay gap in their favor, the U.S. Census Bureau reports" This isn't a men vs women thing. It's a young adult thing, and like you said it's something cultural and societal. The fact that young women are getting educat…

>> The fact that young women are getting educated is a victory for everyone,

Sure, for those Women it's a victory, and many others in society.

But for everyone ? I'm sure some people in society do lose from that extra economic competition and the lower status they get.

Re: 8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now

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According to gunviolencearchive ( https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ ), there were 251 mass shootings in the USA since the beginning of 2019. I don't know if this number is correct, but I just can't understand why guns are still allowed in USA.

The American right believes that it needs guns to protect itself from the government and is terrified that the left will come to take its guns away.

This has gotten more and more extreme to the point that they are now basically against any gun control laws including restrictions on machine guns or any sort of background checks.

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But I don't think its young men's fault, I think that things have gotten objectively worse for them Don't go there. Don't say mass shooters aren't at fault. The thing is, you don't need to. Both things can be true -- life is hard and unfair for certain people in certain ways, and that in the aggregate is bound to lead to more mass killings and other negative effects like suicide.. and the ones who decide to kill inno…

I never justified mass shootings or said it wasn't their fault. I was just stating that things are objectively bad for young men in America. Any kind of therapy or "support", proper raising, etc isnt addressing the issue. Have some introspection and look at your response, you attacked me right off the bat. What was so repulsive in my post? Are these men not allowed to recognize that their life sucks and its societies…

It... seems like maybe you didn't read my post.

Re: 8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now

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Never hung around /v/ during those years, but my guess is it there was no censorship, it was just paranoia as usual. If they really cared so much about it, they could post on /b/.

If you don't know, why are you posting a guess?

Because moot wasn't a censoring type, went against his nature and 4chan in general.
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