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Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#271

The slow animation is the worst. You really want to punch someone responsible in the face. And I never figure out how to solve the traffic light riddle.

The worst part about the slow animation is that when an image you've clicked is fading out, you might think you've completed everything and then click the "Verify" button at the bottom. But then that causes you to have to restart if that wasn't the last image. This is the part that convinces me that ReCAPTCHA was made to fuck with people.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#272

I've never understood what happened to reCAPTCHA, it was originally so great and is now just so, so toxic. Originally it was an awesome solution based on OCR'ing books that usually worked quickly on the first try, and almost never took more than two. Then it turned into a single checkbox (analyzing mouse movement) so it was even faster... and I remember some simple image-based like "select the images of cats" that we…

they’re using the service to train self-driving cars to recognize traffic lights, bicyclists, etc

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Even more annoying are those sites that insist on using it, even though they know I'm human -- for reasons like I've paid them some money or jumped through their KYC hoops. At that point it's just being rude and exploitive, and, personally, I've reached the point where I'll simply take my business elsewhere if a site chooses to treat me with so little basic respect.

There's a case for preventing bot action even if the bot is willing to pay. Though putting a captcha right after a payment step is borderline fraud. What's KYC?

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Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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The problem with recaptcha alternatives is that they either are insecure or require time and money to continue to be ahead of bots. All of the "interactive stand-alone approaches" from that page can be beaten with run-of-the-mill OCR (other than perhaps the 3d challenge) and with almost any mobile phone speech recognition engine (and, if the attacker has the money, can send it off to Google's cloud speech-to-text). A…

Sending my data to Google as a condition of using someone else’s site also isn’t secure. Training Google AI also isn’t something I signed up for.

That's why I always answer the captcha's wrong. the machine!

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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I've never understood what happened to reCAPTCHA, it was originally so great and is now just so, so toxic. Originally it was an awesome solution based on OCR'ing books that usually worked quickly on the first try, and almost never took more than two. Then it turned into a single checkbox (analyzing mouse movement) so it was even faster... and I remember some simple image-based like "select the images of cats" that we…

There's a third problem: quite a bit of the stuff they present is (almost) uniquely American and presents a recognition challenge in other cultural contexts. That yellow vehicle? Looks nothing like a bus in most other parts of the world. And so the rest of the world gets to learn what an American Bus looks like... Not, I think, what was intended.

I often get asked to identify store fronts. They are the worst.

The pictures are blurry and positioned at weird angles. There are lots of signs with east-asian letters (I'm not informed enough to guess what kind of alphabet they belong to) and I have no idea wether they are store fronts or not.

Is a sign to a dentist's office a store front? Generally it seems like anything with a sign above some sort of door or window qualifies as a store front.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#276

I've never understood what happened to reCAPTCHA, it was originally so great and is now just so, so toxic. Originally it was an awesome solution based on OCR'ing books that usually worked quickly on the first try, and almost never took more than two. Then it turned into a single checkbox (analyzing mouse movement) so it was even faster... and I remember some simple image-based like "select the images of cats" that we…

There's a third problem: quite a bit of the stuff they present is (almost) uniquely American and presents a recognition challenge in other cultural contexts. That yellow vehicle? Looks nothing like a bus in most other parts of the world. And so the rest of the world gets to learn what an American Bus looks like... Not, I think, what was intended.

That hasn't been my experience. Most of the "storefronts" are (from what I can tell) based on Asia. I almost never see English signs. I'm still able to complete these challenges with only a little bit of difficulty.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#277

I'm from the UK and often get very American questions. Such as "select all the images with cross-walks". This isn't really a phrase we have over here, so when I first got this I had no idea what I was meant to be looking for in the array of random pictures and actually had to look it up to get past it. If you're going to force me to do a captcha, at least localise the damn questions. Do other non-American's get this…

American here: I when given the challenge of "select all the images with storefronts", typically they are not US based. I almost never speak/understand the language, but if there's a big sign on the building, I select it because it's most likely a storefront.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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TurboTax itself is a dumpster fire, too. I recommend doing taxes on paper just to avoid touching Intuit or Google in any way.

I don't think that's an option for anything other than 1040-EZ. I get lost filing with turbo tax, I can't even imagine how it'll be on paper.

It's not that hard if your taxes are simple (standard deduction, maybe some capital gains). Keep in mind the filing companies have an incentive to make the process complicated.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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The problem with recaptcha alternatives is that they either are insecure or require time and money to continue to be ahead of bots. All of the "interactive stand-alone approaches" from that page can be beaten with run-of-the-mill OCR (other than perhaps the 3d challenge) and with almost any mobile phone speech recognition engine (and, if the attacker has the money, can send it off to Google's cloud speech-to-text). A…

Hobby sites may be in a more difficult position, but businesses may decide between developer convenience and low cost, or excluding some of their users and tormenting them. There are also ways to reduce the damage reCAPTCHA causes, such as keeping it out of the default UX path. Discord for example will show a reCAPTCHA challenge on the login page only if you are signing in from a new location. reCAPTCHA cannot effect…

OK, Discord specifically is terrible. I login in incognito mode from the same location/browser every time, and have to deal with Captcha most of the time.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Happens to me in chrome every single day. I think it's a bug in how they're detecting potential bots. Of course no one at Google will listen when you submit reports. Especially the one about selecting street lights/stop lights/crosswalks.

the concern here is about super-slow loading and more tiles to verify when you use Firefox than when you use Google Chrome browser

All of which I see in Chrome as well. Literally the same experience in the linked post.
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