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Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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> Sorry if I offended someone! It's like you didn't actually read the replies. They state counterarguments; they don't show anyone taking any offense.

I was referring to the instant -5 downvoting seconds after posting, which usually only happens if you insult someone or offend. I really worried I said something rude!

Or maybe we just disagree with you...

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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I was referring to the instant -5 downvoting seconds after posting, which usually only happens if you insult someone or offend. I really worried I said something rude!

Or maybe we just disagree with you...

Then you shouldn't be downvoting it. I don't give a shit what PG said, downvotes should not be used for disagreement. It disrupts the conversation and turns discussions into echo chambers.

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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Organising a conference is hard. Creating value is hard. Farting on social media is easy. As a conference organiser, handling social media fires is especially hard, because you're at peak load already. You're organising a conference!

Farting on social media isn't easy at all! The security guards at Facebook won't let me in after the last time.

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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post #247

I couldn't understand anything. What sort of woman was disinvited and why others were uncomfortable with her?

He danced around that so much I feel like something is being hidden (besides somebody’s identity).

Assuming that the story is true as written, one of the first reactions the subject had to a negative experience was to have her boyfriend harass the conference organizer’s girlfriend.

I think that would probably make women feel unsafe.

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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“We also talked with the organizers of other conferences and with dev that are part of gender groups focalized in technology and all of them recommended us to take distance from them.” Experience tells me author is probably in the wrong here based on this sentence alone. This screams of those extreme lefties that want to police everybody else with their safe spaces and trigger warnings, then deplatform and unperson a…

> The reason for the extreme reaction was likely because it pissed them off that these extremists got their way, and successfully censored and unpersoned another victim. Admit it, you’d be pissed too.

Sure, I’d be pissed. I’d also not harass the organizer, their friends, and their employers as revenge. I’d also consider doxxing and false accusations to be beyond the pale even if I felt angry about losing a conference spot.

In fact, the act of doing that would prove that the organizer was completely correct in kicking this person out, and that the extremist was the speaker and not the organizer.

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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post #54

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>That's mealy-mouthed prevarication, and does not match the actual actions taken under the claim of that philosophy. There is a difference between proactive nurturing and proactive suppression and condemnation. I'm not following what that text means. Can you elaborate?

In the name of improving equality, many conferences are turning to censorious tactics, removing anyone who receives the slightest complaint on ground of even minor disagreement with those claiming to be fighting for equality. To clarify, I don't think that's what's happening in this story. This is more a response to the GGP post.

Gee, I'd love to see you cite ONE conference that has "removed anyone who received the slightest complaint on ground of even minor disagreement." Just one, not the "many" you referenced.

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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I've been a co-convener for two Python conferences in Vancouver. The conferences were small ( For me, the key sources of stress were: 1. hoping that tickets and sponsorship would cover our costs (at some point you have to pay for your venue, flights for your keynotes, etc. and this happens before ticket sales open). I think that we lost a few hundred dollars on the first conference and donated a few hundred dollars t…

How large of an order is needed to buy fish straight from the docks?

My dad has a friend who was a fish wholesaler. So, when he went to the docks to pick his own fish, he picked out two large coolers for me (I wouldn't know how to pick quality fish myself so that was a huge value-add).

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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post #151

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Please do not do doxx, nor take up pitchforks -- not in this case, nor in any other. We can hear someone's report of a terrible experience, and think about the problem, and provide support to that person. However, judgment and sentencing of some other person has very different standards of proof and process.

> judgment and sentencing of some other person has very different standards of proof and process. If this other party is known to many unrelated people over numerous past events for that pattern of behavior, it seems like fair game to me. People out there already know; it's just "connecting the doxx" for the rest.

Not on HN, please.

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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post #59

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Why do you think its right to fix the imbalance - what do you accomplish by it? Are you going to fix the imbalance everywhere you see it?

Yes. Aren't you?

what are we doing to fix the imbalance in preschool and elementary school teachers and bridal salons ?
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