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Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Notion looks great, and I've been hoping to migrate it. There are two big problems. One is the migration path from Evernote. If you look at all the current notetaking apps, none of them seem to have capitalized on the fact that there are lots of unhappy Evernote users out there who would kill for a smooth, painless migration path. Instead, these apps ask you to export your Evernote notes as HTML, something which Ever…

Seconded!

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Where do you see it asking for contacts? It didn't ask me when I signed up and when I check my Google Security settings it only says it has access to: * View your basic profile info (per Google: name, email address, and profile picture) * View your email address

Hi Weizilla; that's interesting! At approximately 14:00EST, clicking on "Get Started", then inputting a gmail address, offered ability to login via Google; then, request for contact permission. There was no way to avoid it. As of right now, 16:22EST, that behaviour is different and I'm no longer seeing the prompt. I've tried different computers & laptops/browsers, to ensure it's not some cached/cookied experience, bu…

Not surprising they're watching this thread, it would be a pretty massive deal inside a small company.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Just in case someone might need it: I reverse engineered their API and wrote (an unofficial) client for accessing the data: https://github.com/kjk/notionapi It's for Go but one could easily port it to any other language. It's just HTTP requests and some light processing of JSON responses. I use it so that I can have my blog content in Notion. In a daily cron job I download the data from Notion, convert it to HTML and…

Yikes, they don't have an official API? Hardly interested in making a closed system my "central source of truth"

Official API is on their roadmap: https://www.notion.so/What-s-New-157765353f2c4705bd45474e5ba...

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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I love the product, but the login workflow is awful. Why innovate on logins? We've solved that problem. Specifically, the login is a randomly-generated one-time code sent to your email address. Notion says this is more secure than them storing a username+password, but that's a dubious argument. They've also said this is two-factor auth (lolno). A side effect of this is that Notion is unusable on my mobile device sinc…

Thanks for telling me this. I will definitely avoid Notion now. I want a username/password combo at the very least, both different for every site I use, and preferably with TOTP as well. I never want my email to be used for security purposes as it is among the most hackable target out there.

Yeah dude someone might go through the trouble of hacking your email just so they can find your todo page with an unchecked checkbox for feeding your goldfish.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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It's safer than email + password. Every email + password combination I'm familiar with allows you to reset password by having a link sent to your email, which means that access to email is always considered the ultimate association of identity. This just removes the email + password altogether and requires that you have explicit access to the email. So it takes the end-all-be-all access criteria of the other solution…

It's less safe than email + password. Someone can break into your email with email + password, or you can forget it logged in and they have your Notion automatically, so it has the same problems email + password have, plus some more.

How is it less safe than any service with an email based password reset option?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Jira has a self hosted version at very reasonable price ($10 one time for small teams with a single server up to $500k per year for high availability setups with >50k users). The same is true for all other Atlassian products. https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/pricing?tab=self-man...

That $10 is a bait and switch price. The next tier is 25 users for $2500. So it went from $1 per user to $100 per user. JIRA is, by its nature, a multi-user software. The $10 for 10 users is clearly engineered to get small teams to commit to using it and then squeeze them when they grow. That is a reasonable strategy for what is a product for companies i.e. enterprise software. It wouldn't work for a product that is…

In a personal use case you more than likely stay below 10 users forever. If you are a company paying multiple employees 2500 should be easy to justify: that's 25 users at 10$/month for Jira Cloud would cost you 2500 in 10 months, with hosted Jira it's just a one time payment

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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But again, that's enterprise. This started with the idea of a personal on-prem solution, which is probably not worth the cost to maintain for the company. I mean, how much is it worth to you to have an on-prem personal solution for a diary ? Because that's the worry... people are afraid that their household budget or their database that tracks the content of various adult films or whatever is going to get exposed. Th…

Personal users want E2E encyrption, so it doesn't matter who is running the server. And most users do not have the skill to run their own server. The technically advanced can just use the enterprise version if they really care about personal on prem.

Even if you have the skill, is it worth the time to do on-prem, considering, you know, a pen and paper?

(Full disclosure: I'm a total bullet journaling convert. Given a choice between giving up my bullet journal and giving up Google Calendar/Docs and Trello, I'd give up the online stuff in a heartbeat.)

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Just in case someone might need it: I reverse engineered their API and wrote (an unofficial) client for accessing the data: https://github.com/kjk/notionapi It's for Go but one could easily port it to any other language. It's just HTTP requests and some light processing of JSON responses. I use it so that I can have my blog content in Notion. In a daily cron job I download the data from Notion, convert it to HTML and…

Nice job! How do you keep your login token fresh?
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