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My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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In the UK, in Bristol;

2009 - exploited minion for a US corp; £22k

2010 - junior at a SME; £30k. By the time I left I'd got to £40k

2014 - mid-level for a US corp: £45k. Up to £51k when I quit.

2018 - seniorish at another SME, £60k

All of the above are with 3-5% pension contributions + rubbish health care. I do a mixture of embedded, devops and back-end web.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I think this is really interesting and glad OP posted it as a reference. I just assumed that everyone saves their digital paystubs and calculating precise salary at any point in ones career is trivial. I was surprised when OP was unsure of salary amounts or when precisely raises went into effect. While I think this is cool from a career planning perspective, I don’t think it’s very useful from OP’s aim of correcting…

> I just assumed that everyone saves their digital paystubs and calculating precise salary at any point in ones career is trivial.

First off, not everyone gets digital paystubs. It depends on how the company manages payroll, and whether they keep it in-house or subcontract it.

Second, even if you do get a digital paystub, it is frequently a manual operation to download and save it outside of the payroll system. I personally have been bad about actually doing so.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you omit a zero from the larger numbers? That seems to make it less readable to me (or at least confusing).

Which number is missing a zero? 9500000 is 9,500,000

Sorry, it was a display issue when viewing on mobile with horizontal scrolling. Everything looks fine on desktop and is readable.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I am a brown male working in India. The salaries are rounded to the nearest 100000 INR. USD values are rounded to the nearest 1000 USD. These are salaries per year . Need to emphasize this because when you see numbers like 3000 USD you may think this is per month. No it is indeed 3000 USD per year. When there are stocks involved, only the stocks that vest per year is included as part of the yearly salary. 2003 - 0 YO…

So you make 40 times more now than at the start of your career? Thats insane! I make a very good salary in Sweden and I've only doubled my salary in my 10 year long career.

The inflation in India is similarly insane.

Last I calculated someone earning 200k INR in 2007 has to be earning nearly 800 k INR by 2017, just to ensure that their earnings are not eroded by inflation. And this is going by government official figures. On ground figures are even worse.

Now when you double that salary it comes to 1600k. And is where another caveat kicks in. I know people who make around that with similar experience as sures. So, he is successful for sure but also in the top 95% percentile of the Indian IT salary figures.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Here's my information, all jobs were in The Netherlands and were software engineering jobs. All salaries are per year, including holiday allowance:

June 2010 - Dec 2012: junior at company A. Started with €13 650, at age 18. By December 2012 this was €19 500

Dec 2012 - Oct 2015: intermediate at company B. Started with €25 805. By October 2015 this was €37 102.

Oct 2015 - present: Company C (GitLab). Started with €36 400 (for 4 days a week), for an intermediate position. Currently this is €58 630, for 5 days a week, for the staff engineer position.

Income taxes for me have always been between 30% and 35%, which today translates to receiving roughly €3000 in the bank every month. My monthly recurring costs (groceries, mortgage, etc) are around €1300 per month.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Right out of school in 2006 my first programming job started me at $20,000 a year. And I was so glad to have it! I’d been applying and interviewing for jobs for six months and this tiny shop was the only place willing to give me a chance. I think people forget, but at the time it was a foregone conclusion that all programming jobs were going to go to India and you would be a fool to go into it. I was told as much by…

I remember hearing this as well around the time. Books about globalization coming out left and right.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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So the guy went in 14 years from zero to "principal architect" ? Can someone explain to me is this based on technical merit or is it just networking/office politics/bullying/elbow tactics/ass kissing/luck?

That seems perfectly reasonable to me and a good place to end up in one's mid-30s. He'd already been a Lead before then. It sounds like he was hired almost directly into the position given the mention of discussion with the VP of engineering before hiring. That was probably critical so would count as "networking", but it sounds like the guy had a speaking and consulting business before then.

Technical merit is very hard to assess, and it gets harder at the senior level, but having a public speaking profile makes it much easier for people to see someone's talent.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

#280

I always wonder when I read about salaries in other countries - what do the numbers usually mean? Not sure if this is how it works everywhere, but where I live, we have 3 different ways of talking about salary: 1) What you actually get 2) What you actually get + what you pay in taxes 3) What you actually get + what you pay in taxes + what your employer pays in taxes Usually we talk about #2 when discussing salaries.…

Seems like it's more important to change titles than company according to your history. To be honest I'm a bit offended you consider yourself senior with 2 years of experience.

The "senior" title is not about the length of your tenure. It's about your ability to independently solve difficult problems and provide leadership to those around you.
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