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At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsettle the Ranks

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Re: At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsettle the Ranks

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If anyone from Netflix is reading this and needs to hire someone for the purposes of firing them a year later, I'm your man. I am no ordinary sacrificial hire. I will work with you to create the narrative you need to showcase your true, natural leadership and management abilities. You know you've got what it takes; you just haven't had the opportunity to demonstrate it. My job will be to make sure that you come out o…

Love it - reminds me of the famous letter by Da Vinci outlining his capabilities :-) https://gizmodo.com/5460442/leonardo-da-vincis-resume-explai...

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post #11

Wow. I can literally feel my neck and shoulders bunching up just _reading_ this. If I wanted to live in a fear-based culture every day, I'd join the armed forces--at least that way I could shoot back.

Oddly enough, the military actually does stack rankings with the same predictable results. You just can't get fired right away easily in the military, but a supervisor who doesn't like you can easily make you impossible to promote for the rest of your career.

Re: At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsettle the Ranks

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post #214

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1. Don't promote based on ranking in current role. The new roles that you are promoting into aren't the current role. Being a good X doesn't mean that you will be a good Y. 2. Organise your company around rewarding excellent work. Ranking systems reward being good at the ranking system. They rapidly become the whole focus of the organisation, I have seen >10% of an organisations time burned on simply running the syst…

The tricky bit for #4 is if you're, say, a high-performing engineer on a team that's being poorly mis-managed so as to create little business value, getting a disappointing performance review is far more likely to cause you to leave the organization entirely than to switch to a different team. Creating a company culture that engenders that sort of trust and loyalty is not impossible, but still non-trivial.

That seems by design. Good skills poorly applied are t helpful in orgs that need total restructuring, I reckon? Curious for your thoughts.

Re: At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsettle the Ranks

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post #7

> Richard Siklos, a Netflix spokesman, said the company only fires employees for performance reasons, not because managers don’t like them That's not true at all. The company fires people all the time because their skills just aren't necessary. I mean I guess technically it's a layoff, but a layoff and getting fired are functionally the same at Netflix as they both come with the same severance. When we moved to AWS,…

> I very much enjoyed working in a culture where both hiring and firing were easy to do, to make sure that the team was always the right people at the right time. I think you'll agree that your perspective may be something of an outlier, given that you 1.) are not the person who's going to be fired, 2.) are the person who is most empowered by a policy of ease of hiring and firing those under you, and 3.) don't need t…

It occurs to me that I like that sort of work environment as well, as an employee.

One of the reasons I always insist on working as a contractor is so that the company can end things whenever they want. Importantly, though, the risk of that happening is reflected in my rate.

Since from my perspective the risk of being let go as a 1099 vs. as a 1040 is roughly equal, and the compensation is roughly double, it seems like an easy trade-off.

And a fella can buy an awful lot of health insurance for 100% of his salary...

Re: At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsettle the Ranks

#275

I feel like tech needs to experiment with worker owned cooperatives and flat management more. I know, I know, the politics in flat structures can be worse. But I think tech should be innovative in management structure and eventually a standard for decision making, perhaps based on quaker principles, and management structure, maybe based on mondragon, can emerge.

>tech needs to experiment with worker owned cooperatives and flat management more

Reminds me of Buffer cofounders who just split because they ended up with différents visions for the company.

We just need company where C-Exexs are tech guys , not salesman.

Re: At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsettle the Ranks

#276
post #11

Wow. I can literally feel my neck and shoulders bunching up just _reading_ this. If I wanted to live in a fear-based culture every day, I'd join the armed forces--at least that way I could shoot back.

There seems to be a deep fundamental contradiction between current corporate culture and this relentless drive for efficiency. [1]

Some get untold wealth even for failing and land perfectly after. The system does not seem to be coherent.

[1] https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/10/26/containing-ceo-pay/

Re: At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsettle the Ranks

#277
post #226

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stack ranking != ranking. Even at El Goog, 50% of the headcount is performing below average.

> 50% Only if the average equals the median. There is a low probability that they are equal if you randomly pick a distribution from the set of all possible distributions (and round the percentages to the nearest integer). Edit: I am not a statistician so maybe the above is totally incorrect. The myth half of a sample is below the average triggers me every time!! Sorry.

That's my point - it's a misleading statistic. If you have a cohort of geniuses, half of them are still going to be very smart. The premise of stack ranking is you fire the bottom tier.

Re: At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsettle the Ranks

#278

I recently quit a job that had me burned out, and in the meantime I've decided to take a couple months off before my next job. My biggest fear in going back is that I feel like now that I have 0 tolerance for the corporate culture bullshit that permeates all large organizations. I don't really even fault Netflix for what they're doing (I've certainly seen much worse) but I've determined that to function that pretty m…

Becoming a contractor is always an option.

Re: At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsettle the Ranks

#279
post #56

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I'll never understand US-style at will employment. It just seems so barbaric and arbitrary. Where I'm from the current conservative government just proposed legislation that would make it slightly easier to fire people in small companies (at most dozen employees or so). This caused the left-leaning part of the country to throw a collective hissy-fit, including several political strikes organized by major unions.

Note that tech, and especially the tech examined on Hacker News, is an outlier in American business. If this were Civil Engineer News or Actuary News, you'd see a very different attitude toward hiring and firing. Startups are quick to hire and fire because hiring exactly the right person is important, and hiring the wrong person can cripple the company. Everyone who applies for a position at a startup knows how this…

Even then why is such culture legal? Over here you're legally required to let someone know they're under performing and give them a minimal time (I think 6 months in the UK?) to improve before you can fire them.

Re: At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsettle the Ranks

#280
post #270

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They definitely pay more at Netflix for equal IC positions and very likely for Director roles. It is very rare to find ICs making 600-700 k total comp at Facebook or Google, not rare at all at Netflix.

Then it makes perfect sense. Not that hard to endure a little wild wild waste ride for $700K per year.

I agree, they sometimes exchange dignity for money.

In fact, it is not-my-wild guess that the probability of stopping a homicide steeply decreases with the amount of money given to look the other way. For some, even their sister's. Go figure for a job in tech.

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