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Sounds like you've never heard actual hate speech. Consider that a privilege.
Sounds like you have a lot of internalized self-hate. You certainly have a lot of guts saying this on an account attached to your name and resume.
Alex Stamos: Asking tech companies to police hate speech is “a dangerous path”
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Re: Alex Stamos: Asking tech companies to police hate speech is “a dangerous path”
#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I firmly believe that if all the energy being poured into protecting hate were instead put into eradicating it, the world could only become a better place HOW? How do you eradicate hate speech? What is hate speech? Anything that makes you feel bad? So do you single-handedly decide what speech is ok or not? You're lambasting people's protection for free speech as "protecting hate speech" (which is a false dichotomy)…
Asking "who defines hate speech?" is a cop-out. No one ever asks "who defines privacy?" in discussions about that. Hate speech is just as obvious to anyone with a modicum of empathy. It's plenty easy for people in general (except HN, where no one seems to have any notion of what that could possibly be without a grand arbiter to define it down to the spin of each quark) to recognize hate speech. Platforms already have…
I don't think you're examining the problem (and censorship IS a problem) critically. Forgive me, but you are the one copping out. And actually, people do ask "what is privacy." It is being redefined all the time and there are people actively fighting for their definition of it. They at least have a definition.
Re: Alex Stamos: Asking tech companies to police hate speech is “a dangerous path”
#273Well, these unnamed "tech companies" are responsible for the proliferation of absurd lies that will elect a far right authoritarian candidate in my country, Brazil. The spread of this lies happens with the support of a well financed organization. I always thought that the Internet would be a democratic platform that would improve the debate in society. Maybe we would go back to a democracy without intermediaries. I w…
>Well, these unnamed "tech companies" are responsible for the proliferation of absurd lies that will elect a far right authoritarian candidate in my country, Brazil. There was no reason why the opposition to that candidate couldn't have put up their own absurd lies, or, dare I say, disproved the far right candidate's lies, thereby achieving the same success via the same platform. The elections are all about effective…
Then they spend all the time refuting absurd lies instead of explaining their proposals.
Re: Alex Stamos: Asking tech companies to police hate speech is “a dangerous path”
#274Well, these unnamed "tech companies" are responsible for the proliferation of absurd lies that will elect a far right authoritarian candidate in my country, Brazil. The spread of this lies happens with the support of a well financed organization. I always thought that the Internet would be a democratic platform that would improve the debate in society. Maybe we would go back to a democracy without intermediaries. I w…
I just read an article today about a named tech company banning marketing accounts associated with said far-right candidate. But I don't think that will stop him from a landslide win. The knife was the opposition's best hope.
One of the blocked accounts were of the son of the candidate.
Re: Alex Stamos: Asking tech companies to police hate speech is “a dangerous path”
#275Well, these unnamed "tech companies" are responsible for the proliferation of absurd lies that will elect a far right authoritarian candidate in my country, Brazil. The spread of this lies happens with the support of a well financed organization. I always thought that the Internet would be a democratic platform that would improve the debate in society. Maybe we would go back to a democracy without intermediaries. I w…
What should these tech companies have done to prevent this?
- limit the amount of persons in a group
- limit the amount of people you can forward a message
- Restrict broadcasts
Re: Alex Stamos: Asking tech companies to police hate speech is “a dangerous path”
#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
"hate speech" and "dehumanizing" are implicitly political terms. Will you will agree with me that one's politics are simply deeply cherished opinions and nothing more? It appears to me that we are excluding voices from public discourse because, in the opinion of a powerful group, they have been rude. One person's rude criticism can easily become another person's hate speech.
Unfortunately, politics directly affects the safety, health, and livelihood of everyone. People get sick die because of political decisions, and people gain great amounts of wealth because of political decisions. People maintain comfortable places in society or remain in fully employed poverty because of political decisions. There is very little in peoples' lives that aren't affected by politics. If you're in a posit…
I am more tolerant and wise than you because I can separate political thought and speech from political action. You, apparently, cannot. I am being charitable by calling you a control freak who cannot handle having their deeply cherished opinions challenged.