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Keep in mind, just blocking traffic out of the EU does not serve as GDPR compliance. EU citizens are covered by GDPR, not EU traffic. A EU citizen traveling to the US is still afforded all the protections of GDPR as they do back at home.
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It's not about privacy, its about poorly written regulation that leaves too much vagueness because its based on principles rather than hard rules. Good intentions are not enough, there must be clear paths to implementation and verification. Perhaps that should've been fixed instead of wondering why so many companies don't really want to deal with it. It will also do just about nothing in regards to the major companie…
As a French guy, these type of comments make me smile. The GDPR is basically just the implementation of the French law "Informatique et Liberté" into the European Level. (You can read on HN many Germans saying that it's actually the implementation of the Datenschutzgesetzt. The truth is: these two laws are extremely similar.) This law has been in application since 1978 [1]. And in 2018, we have adtech companies like…
Given the EU assertion of global jurisdiction, the GDPR seems like a bit of a trade war and it's surprising more commentators aren't treating it as such.
The US should be inspired by this and give online retailers the opportunity to collect and remit sales taxes.
To offer a non-dev perspective on Hn, it feels like tech companies are really trying to annoy us users with GDPR updates in an effort to nurture opposition to similar proposed regulations in the future. I hope it doesn't work. I love GDPR, getting rid of the WHOIS database stuff alone is enough to make me a huge fan. The option to delete my data is also amazing.
I plan to completely ignore GDPR laws and will not modify neither my privacy policy not my SaaS product, even if I have a lot of customers from the EU.
Why? You're opposed to privacy? And how do you plan to react when you get penalized?
To offer a non-dev perspective on Hn, it feels like tech companies are really trying to annoy us users with GDPR updates in an effort to nurture opposition to similar proposed regulations in the future. I hope it doesn't work. I love GDPR, getting rid of the WHOIS database stuff alone is enough to make me a huge fan. The option to delete my data is also amazing.
I simply don't understand how or why a law that has scope in the EU is causing trouble for companies which conduct no business in the EU beyond responding to HTTP requests on a global decentralized telecommunications network. Why would an American internet business which conducts no operations in Europe and has no servers in Europe be subject to regulation that affects the EU? What is going to happen? Is the EU going…
Fun fact: Russia recently approved similar law which requires all personal data of Russian citizens to be stored in a server hosted in Russia. So theoretically many webmasters are already be in trouble :)
I wouldn't call that a similar law at all, because the spirit of it is so that the government can have access to that data…
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And if you presented a nice growth graph over American customers with the implication for expansion over other regions such as EU, whats the possibility that some investors considered that potential when they invested? Like say a software service which I would assume is more common investment target here rather than flags.
Your example is a different audience. As I pointed out, it depends on your target audience. Not every company wants or even needs to do business with the E.U. in order to be successful. I know that sounds strange to someone in Europe, and I've never been able to make my Austrian friends understand it, but it's true. There are millions of businesses from Australia to Alabama and beyond who don't care about the E.U. Fo…
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> Is the EU going to target American banks of American businesses and try to extract fines? You mean like America? That time when the USA decided to enforce their embargo against Cuba by intercepting a payment from one of the Nordics for a bunch of Cuban cigars? No, that's unlikely. > Is the EU going to extradite owners of these businesses? Extremely unlikely, besides that would require the cooperation of the other c…
>> Are EU courts going to issue default judgements on businesses and individuals? > Against individuals: Unlikely, but it could happen AFAIK IANAL: GDPR doesn't apply to individuals that e.g. host mastodon instance.
However, some non-commercial Mastodon instances are now supporting thousands of users. An argument could be made that operating such instances is no longer a "personal or household activity".
Whilst I would hope that the local data protection agency would side with the Mastodon instance operator, it does put them in a rather difficult situation.
I think this possibility raises a lot of concern for operators of Mastodon instances and other online services.
To offer a non-dev perspective on Hn, it feels like tech companies are really trying to annoy us users with GDPR updates in an effort to nurture opposition to similar proposed regulations in the future. I hope it doesn't work. I love GDPR, getting rid of the WHOIS database stuff alone is enough to make me a huge fan. The option to delete my data is also amazing.
You don't need GDPR to hide your WHOIS records. Almost any domain registry provides WhoisGuard that will hide all your WHOIS data.