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Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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post #230

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I wish Hubski would take off more. The design is purpose-built for respectful, intelligent discussion.

If you don't mind me asking, why do you think Hubski has failed so far? You'd think its innovation really would make it a likely candidate for passing the network effect threshold.

What is hubski's innovation? Using tags to organize more prolifically?

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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post #176

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Not that they're bad. There's definitely a lot of subreddits with a good charm. But they're PITA from information archive point of view. Browsing old threads is much harder than in classic BB. Thus people keep asking same question over and over again even more than in the old days :) Hundreds-of-pages-over-a-decade historical threads don't happen on either of new platforms either :( Which is one of the lovely quirks…

oh that sure, reddit has no function here on most subreddits, but for non instantaneous chat/help it's very good.

I guess I lurk on different type of classic forums. Most of them focus on generating long-standing content on-the-spot chat is just a byproduct.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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post #232

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protip: append ".compact" to the URL (before the "?" query string, if any). All reddit links will also now automatically have .compact. Bookmark it. Starter pack: https://www.reddit.com/.compact https://www.reddit.com/r/all.compact https://www.reddit.com/message/inbox/.compact This gives the old reddit mobile experience, which is far lighter and better. But some things are broken, e.g. "submit" is broken; "parent" ta…

You can also just change the subdomain to i.reddit.com instead of www.reddit.com to achieve the same effect. e.g. https://i.reddit.com/r/all I personally find this quicker to type.

TIL

BTW another breakage is no comment "delete" link; need to switch back for that.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Reddit is terrible for discussion anyway. You can't have a discussion when people can "downvote" your post. Nothing of value has been lost here. I say that as someone who used reddit heavily until about a month ago when I kicked the addiction.

All downvoting does is enforce 'crowd-think'. You could never picture it today, but back in 2012, /r/politics was much more central then it was today (still left leaning, but you could actually find differing opinions). But soon after that election, anyone who disagreed would get downvoted into oblivion, and eventually those people stop posting. And what you're left with is today's /r/politics. You can see this in a…

Indeed. Downvoting simply shouldn't exist. It lets users feel like "mini-censors" and it turns out people really like censoring views they don't agree with or that make them uncomfortable.

It's not just downvoting, though. Reddit also lets the moderators act like real censors and they are completely unaccountable. There is no way to visit a subreddit and know whether the discussion there is censored or not. So you have to assume it is.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Reddit has its issues (brigading, trolling, execssive politics, 12-year old level "memes" on serious discussions), but it was a site you could visit without regret, and get lost in for hours.

With the new redesign, it is Facebook - people share a link, you click the comments section, it shows you the top comments, you upvote the top comments (or the ones that agree with your view), and rinse and repeat till infinity, because you have infinite scroll. Which is not how I want the future Reddit to look like.

Yes, it is good for advertisers. Yes, it is good for the the new wave of people who will arrive from Facebook.

But it is utterly disheartening for Reddit to stray so far from what I viewed its core emphasis as - comments.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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post #33

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And yet so few of the designers consider dark/black colour themes, which are not only more easier on the eyes, but also notably save the battery.

Dark themes are worse for the eyes, https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/53264/dark-or-white-c... Don't know about battery life. I guess if it's AMOLED, https://www.greenbot.com/article/2834583/how-much-power-does...

>Dark themes are worse for the eyes

Well, certainly not for my eyes.

>Don't know about battery life. I guess if it's AMOLED

Yes, that's what I meant, as discussed in the thread below. I didn't realise of common LCD screens still are. I haven't had one since 2012...

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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>Now pretty much anything is on the table. Not really. The_Donald hasn't been banned even though Reddit doesn't like it. They have kind of hidden it though.

They shut down a huge number of firearm/alchohol/tobacco related subreddits in the last month, many of which were very mature and welcoming communities, without any warning they they were going to do this to the moderators. Places like r/beerswap and r/pipetobaccomarket, which allowed users to swap product unavailable in their local areas. Now the moderators of big subreddits like r/pipetobacco are organizing alterna…

The current events are most likely motivated by legal concerns, and have nothing to do with the decision to shut down hate subs, and happened a long time after Pao left.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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post #272

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oh that sure, reddit has no function here on most subreddits, but for non instantaneous chat/help it's very good.

I guess I lurk on different type of classic forums. Most of them focus on generating long-standing content on-the-spot chat is just a byproduct.

yeah, per 'site' moderation has still a massive influence over this. /r/askhistorian is very strict about answers, anything that deviates from sourced and on topic will be removed. You can read anything there and have clear concise deep answers even years after.

this is something I liked a lot about reddit, there's no micromanagement, it's very organic and free. I'm not always for senseless freedom but in this case I found it to yield interesting things.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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post #181

I don't get it. What exactly is changing? From the screenshots from the reddit post about it, it looks.... like reddit. There's posts and the posts have upvote/downvote buttons, and there's a link to the comments that shows how many there are. Am I missing something? The OP article doesn't actually have any screenshots of changes, and I made it several paragraphs into the article still not understanding what is chang…

You should be able to interact with the redesign directly at https://new.reddit.com . The main complaints I've seen leveled at the redesign are: user profiles becoming more like Facebook profiles, the new chat functionality missing core features, and the newly created "best" ranking becoming the default.

I just get regular reddit when I click that, did they turn it off?

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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TPM isn’t about locking down machines - they’re about enabling the user (who is always in control) to establish a trust chain for software on the machine - and to serve as a secure store for cryptographic secrets so they become inaccessible from the rest of the system. You can have lock-out without the TPM anyway - like the pre-Fingerprint reader iPhones.

TPM technically isn't about locking users out, but will be (is) used this way - between enterprise customers and MAFIAA's desire for DRM, it's pretty much a given. It's a tool in the War on General Purpose Computing. Alone not enough to win it, and sure, theoretically useful for both sides, but for the enemies of general purpose computing it's an important cog in their war machine.

QubesOS uses this tool to give users and device owners (not vendors) control, e.g. Anti Evil Maid.
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