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Microsoft disables Spectre mitigations as Intel’s patches cause instability

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Re: Microsoft disables Spectre mitigations as Intel’s patches cause instability

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I'm amazed on how Intel's stock price still keeps going UP, despite all these problems... just WOW.

What, are you going to stop buying Intel processors?

I will, but I am just a guy who builds his own computer every few years.

Re: Microsoft disables Spectre mitigations as Intel’s patches cause instability

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I doubt Intel will see serious punishment in the market. As usual, there will be a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth but when push comes to shove most people will prioritize nearly everything over security. All markets work like this. People bitch about the quality of products, but still buy the cheap stuff.

This will be true until something uses Meltdown in the wild to cause massive damage. When a digital superflu comes, businesses and individuals will be faced with a choice: continue to use Intel and be vulnerable to a flu that is literally wiping out businesses, exchanges, hospitals, etc or replace ALL of their hardware with AMD. Interestingly, I think AMD has a lot of motive to create such a superflu, or at least enc…

If AMD were proved to have been involved in the creation of such malware, to what extent could they be litigated against?

Re: Microsoft disables Spectre mitigations as Intel’s patches cause instability

#274

These updates most definitely could've been handled better. I was having a busy week with exams and I get a call about around 10 machines not booting (this was before the announcement). Sure enough, last thing everyone reported was updating. I call the supplier and apparently they have reports of at least 2000 machines (at that moment) that had to be reimaged across the city (from what I could tell, all were older AM…

Become a goat farmer. https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/4l7kjd/found_a_te...

One of the attempts at adding to the list "Nobody is ever going to sell you goats as a service." is actually wrong. Companies do rent goats for land clearing[1]. Go for beekeeper then you too can do "bees as a service"[2].

1) http://rentagoat.com/

2) http://americanbeejournal.com/insights-honey-pollination-pac...

Re: Microsoft disables Spectre mitigations as Intel’s patches cause instability

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Trust me, if you don't like the idea of your entire livelihood hinging on weather or not a piece of equipment boots up, farming is NOT the career for you.

I like the idea of Internet Weather. Seems probability of rain is currently increasing. And so does anticipation of floods and surges.

There was an old website in the 90's that did Internet Weather, I think it was from one of the BBS magazines.

Re: Microsoft disables Spectre mitigations as Intel’s patches cause instability

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> ...but it happens more often than I would like that I update Linux (Ubuntu) and, lo and behold, I can't really use any programs until I reboot... Ubuntu developer here. This doesn't happen to me in practice. Most updates don't cause system instability. I rarely reboot. Firefox is the most noticeable thing. After updating Firefox (usually it's a security update), Firefox often starts misbehaving until restarted. But…

Ubuntu user here. Ubuntu is less stable than my second girlfriend, and she tried to stab me once. Lately, every time my co-worker has updated Ubuntu, it has broken his system. He's like my canary in the coalmine. I wait for his system to not fall over before I will update mine.

Maybe its time to consider an OS with better maintainers, like Debian. I've had less issues on unstable/sid over the past few years than I had on the last Ubuntu LTS release (which was what spurred me to Debian). On my other machine, Debian Stretch (and Jessie prior to upgrading) have treated me well, there just isn't breakage when upgrading to the latest stable release or when applying security patches.

Re: Microsoft disables Spectre mitigations as Intel’s patches cause instability

#277

These updates most definitely could've been handled better. I was having a busy week with exams and I get a call about around 10 machines not booting (this was before the announcement). Sure enough, last thing everyone reported was updating. I call the supplier and apparently they have reports of at least 2000 machines (at that moment) that had to be reimaged across the city (from what I could tell, all were older AM…

Trust me, if you don't like the idea of your entire livelihood hinging on weather or not a piece of equipment boots up, farming is NOT the career for you.

I like what you did with the typo there.

Re: Microsoft disables Spectre mitigations as Intel’s patches cause instability

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post #249

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I like the idea of Internet Weather. Seems probability of rain is currently increasing. And so does anticipation of floods and surges.

Do you think there's a market for "Cloud Meteorologists"?

Such data lake. Such pastoral, idyllic landscape.

Re: Microsoft disables Spectre mitigations as Intel’s patches cause instability

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> Best not to make it personal from the peanut gallery. That's a very uncharitable interpretation of your parent comment, which was simply pointing out his connection and history with Intel.

Are you sure it is not you that has made the uncharitable interpretation? I read the peanut gallery comment as an agreement that the guy knows what he’s talking about.

FWIW - I took it as a somewhat rude reply but hey it’s the internet so no big deal.
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