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Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Though I appreciate your post, it only further emphasizes my original point. You, apparently a professor at CMU, praise folks for merely uninstalling an app. Something you only knew because they bothered to post it on an internet board. This further reinforces that people should post that they're doing such virtuous things to begin with. Why, because they want to increase social standing among people in a given area,…

Let me quote from your original comment: > people don't actually care. It's just virtue signaling. You're making claims about their underlying motivation, and dismissing their actions as just virtue signaling. "They're not doing A, they're only doing B" Showing the presence of B is not sufficient to demonstrate the absence of A. Second, you haven't actually shown that they're virtue signaling. Note that your definiti…

Hmmm, lots of good points here.

> You're making claims about their underlying motivation, and dismissing their actions as just virtue signaling.

This is true.

> Showing the presence of B is not sufficient to demonstrate the absence of A.

This is also true.

> Second, you haven't actually shown that they're virtue signaling. Note that your definition specifically includes intent: "publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character" -- the OP could be expressing their sentiments publicly in order to induce others to follow suit, for example. The same post admits many possible explanations, and you are in no position to read the mind of the posters in order to divine their intent. You're making assumptions, but you again haven't presented any evidence to suggest that your hypothesis is better than any others.

Indeed, though, with respect to this there's no evidence -- save the person themselves stating that's what they intended -- that I could present that would be sufficient.

Overall I regret my original post and the ensuing posts, since ironically, my original intent was far less aggressive than is implied by the responses.

Oh well, live and learn.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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So was the stolen data deleted? This could've easily just been part of a "bug county," no?

Except when you actually steal data, you're not eligible to bounty. This means the hackers had decent leverage and negotiation skills (maybe Uber could've scared them with lawyers, etc).

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Man, I don't know if Uber is evil or if most tech companies are evil and Uber just doesn't drop the kind of money on PR strategery that an evil company need to drop in order to seem normal. But either way, holy cow does that company come off as toxic. They've completely revolutionized the drive-for-hire industry and all anyone ever hears about it what a D-bag their CEO is or how toxic and mysogonist their work enviro…

Magneto is pretty concerned with ethics and morality, I think Uber is more owned by Tony Stark on a particularly bad binge.

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Speaking of politics, media influence and tech, a fair number of average joes have a terrible opinion of Musk/Tesla/SpaceX; but these same people are unaware, or maybe vaguely aware the US Gov spent >10billion, just in direct financial losses, bailing out GM. If everyone in the country was told "write a check to GM for $50 or go to jail," and conservative media wasn't berating Tesla/Musk, public opinion would be a lo…

Is conservative media berating Musk? I thought progressive media was souring on him?

Indeed they are: https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/11/breitbart-other-cons...

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Nope, they don't know. My non-tech friends are all using Uber / UberEats with no clue about the company, and the CEO. They just see an easy to use app to get what they want quickly.

Speaking of politics, media influence and tech, a fair number of average joes have a terrible opinion of Musk/Tesla/SpaceX; but these same people are unaware, or maybe vaguely aware the US Gov spent >10billion, just in direct financial losses, bailing out GM. If everyone in the country was told "write a check to GM for $50 or go to jail," and conservative media wasn't berating Tesla/Musk, public opinion would be a lo…

This is news to me, I've never come across an average person having a negative opinion of Musk. On the contrary they think of him as some iron-man like figure.

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Man, I don't know if Uber is evil or if most tech companies are evil and Uber just doesn't drop the kind of money on PR strategery that an evil company need to drop in order to seem normal. But either way, holy cow does that company come off as toxic. They've completely revolutionized the drive-for-hire industry and all anyone ever hears about it what a D-bag their CEO is or how toxic and mysogonist their work enviro…

Uber is like the Donald Trump of corporations. It sets new ground in how openly vile you can be without any consequences. Just like Donald Trump the real danger is not in Uber itself but in whatever it will be that uses it as a role model.

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And people wonder why I keep saying that Uber needs to have its business license yanked or suffer some similarly drastic sanction or they'll just keep right on doing it and others will follow the same strategy. I mean, how often does a firm have to breach the trust of (just about) everyone it deals with before it's time to punish it in some meaningful way?

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> Here’s how the hack went down: Two attackers accessed a private GitHub coding site used by Uber software engineers and then used login credentials they obtained there to access data stored on an Amazon Web Services account that handled computing tasks for the company. From there, the hackers discovered an archive of rider and driver information. Later, they emailed Uber asking for money, according to the company. D…

Things like this make me feel much less concerned about the confidence gap.
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