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Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by 4ad »

RobertKerans wrote: post #270
4ad wrote: post #250

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> Those are things you expect from a new car, and they're the reasons you buy a new car. Those are thing you expect from a new car, and they most certainly are not the reason I would buy a new car. > If I buy a brand new knife, I expect it to be sharp right from the factory. You might expect that, but the practical reality is that knives don't really come truly pre-sharpened, and there are many reasons for that. Peop…

That read as a satire of a hacker news response. It's a relatively expensive knife, it's not unreasonable to expect it to arrive with a sharp edge.

No offense, but it's a very cheap knife. Not saying at all you need or you might even want expensive knives, in fact yesterday I made a post on reddit about some very good cheap knives: https://www.reddit.com/r/Cooking/comments/6pet6k/cooks_whats....

However, that price point is the bottom of the bottom of the lowest end when it comes to knives and should be reviewed as such.

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by bluGill »

freehunter wrote: post #231
bluGill wrote: post #227

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I've had good luck just googling (now duck duck go) the part I needed. There are thousands of tiny specialty suppliers and most provide value beyond the gadget I need. nailgunsdirect.com had the odd sized nails I needed for a project that were not stocked locally, they also have buyers guides which helped me decide a interesting new nailgun wasn't right for me. toolpartsdirect.com had the switch I needed for my drill…

The reason I shop on Amazon is so I don't have to give shady vendors any of my personal information. I'm willing to pay a few bucks extra for the security that Amazon afford, as long as I'm getting genuine merchandise. Which I can't be guaranteed at Nail Gun Depot either.

You seem to be suggesting amazon is more likely to give you genuine merchandise. This doesn't fit with what I've been seeing lately where people complain about counterfeit merchandise all the time.

I find when going to small sites there are lots of signs that they are not shady: they generate own reviews and advice that is more than marketing. A little poking around will tell a lot. And of course I buy with a credit card so I'm protected against loss in the worst case.

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by TallGuyShort »

throwaway91111 wrote: post #268
EADGBE wrote: post #232

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Weird. It's always on when I click the button. I pay for cable to enjoy baseball games, primarily, as there is no other way to watch "in-market" otherwise. For certain demographics, it's just the most sense. I mean, TV is TV. If I spend a little bit more to never have to deal with buffering, or a laggy UI, it's worth it to me. I think a lot of non-cord-cutters would agree. Re: cord cutting; I've tried, I really have.

I totally get the always on thing; especially for baseball. My point was more that ads are the driving force for me, and i am sure others, to abandon the platform; it feels a little like someone invading your home to yell at you if you're not used to it. But this applies to YouTube too; cable cutting is hardly a panacea to avoid intrusive ads.

Personally, ads are easy enough for me to skip with a DVR (so long as you don't mind a lag between the live event and you watching it happen - avoiding results on the Internet isn't always easy) - but I don't even get the always-on thing. I had outages just as often as I do with Internet (actually more so), and I've had events not broadcasted when advertized. NBC Sports has been especially bad with this and F1 coverage - they outbid a motorsport-specific channel to get exclusive access to more niche events, and then those events get bumped to the bottom of the priority list in any scheduling conflict. So if you are DVR'ing it, you better check on it at least daily with other sources of information otherwise you're out of luck several times a season. Which wouldn't even be so bad if the only way to get NBC Sports and the other channels they move it to wasn't buying a 200 channel package and tripling my bill. So I just withdrew entirely.

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Post by jaclaz »

wccrawford wrote: post #207
jaclaz wrote: post #166

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Yep, but - still to be fair - please list the last three items that you could find (locally or online) at a lower price but that you decided to buy from Amazon instead because of the superior customer expereince.

I'm sure I could find the last automotive cleaner, diet foods, and more locally, if I cared to spend the time driving to places that might have it and checking. I'm also pretty sure they'd be cheaper there. I've also bought games and computer parts on Amazon instead of NewEgg because I dislike NewEgg's shipping system and customer service. I'd rather pay a little more and have a nicer experience. And if I have to ret…

I wasn't clear, my bad.

For "locally" I meant "at the shop just around the corner", or however in a "convenient, known, usual, place" not a "drive in search of the lowest price across the city".

I have no experience whatever with NewEgg, from what I have seen around they seem on par with other online shops, and I - maybe I am just lucky - never needed the customer service of either Amazon of other vendors, what I can say is that at least here (Italy) Amazon is usually very fast in delivering (but all in all not that much faster than other online retailers, maybe there is a slight advantage for orders on Friday night, Saturday and Sunday).

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by freehunter »

bluGill wrote: post #272
freehunter wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason I shop on Amazon is so I don't have to give shady vendors any of my personal information. I'm willing to pay a few bucks extra for the security that Amazon afford, as long as I'm getting genuine merchandise. Which I can't be guaranteed at Nail Gun Depot either.

You seem to be suggesting amazon is more likely to give you genuine merchandise. This doesn't fit with what I've been seeing lately where people complain about counterfeit merchandise all the time. I find when going to small sites there are lots of signs that they are not shady: they generate own reviews and advice that is more than marketing. A little poking around will tell a lot. And of course I buy with a credit…

I'm suggesting Amazon can be trusted with my credit card, and implying I would use them over any other merchant as long as I am reasonably sure I am getting something genuine. Prime or Fulfilled By Amazon are pretty good determinations that I'm either getting something legit or I have a very clear path to return the item and get my money back.

I can't say the same thing for a billion other little shops online. If you can't trust that a product on Amazon is legit, how can you trust some no-name site? I can't see how "www.Totally-Legit-Nail-Gun-Depot.info" can be any more deserving of trust than the largest online retailer in the world who has a better-than-world-class return policy.

That's like saying "I've been burned by bad doctors in the past, I'm going to have my brain surgery performed by this guy in an alley". I don't care how many patient referrals Alley Guy has, or that I have life insurance in case he kills me.

Better the devil you know, right?

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Post by freehunter »

4ad wrote: post #271
RobertKerans wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That read as a satire of a hacker news response. It's a relatively expensive knife, it's not unreasonable to expect it to arrive with a sharp edge.

No offense, but it's a very cheap knife. Not saying at all you need or you might even want expensive knives, in fact yesterday I made a post on reddit about some very good cheap knives: https://www.reddit.com/r/Cooking/comments/6pet6k/cooks_whats... . However, that price point is the bottom of the bottom of the lowest end when it comes to knives and should be reviewed as such.

No offense, but you seem to be someone who is very into knives and is proud of that. Most of us aren't. So what's "very cheap" to you is well above the price point of many people.

I mean, a BMW may be a high quality car, but most people are going to just get a base model Toyota Corolla and they're just fine with that choice. I can buy a kit car that makes me supply my own engine and tires and exhaust and electrics and it will be custom fit to my exact needs, but for the Toyota Corolla owners, they want to buy a car that already has all of those things and can be driven off the lot.

I'm not criticizing your choices, you seem very knowledgable. I'm just trying to help you understand that when you say "a knife shouldn't come sharp from the factory" and "that $45 knife is the bottom of the lowest end", it makes you seem incredibly out of touch with how most people buy knives.

If I bought a knife that wasn't sharp, I would return it to the store and get a different one.

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by gmac »

jvzr wrote: post #123
gmac wrote: post #117

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camelcamelcamel is indeed a great resource. Also, you can set up a Workflow workflow on iOS to get a quick price history via the 'share' button from within the Amazon app.

Great idea! Do you happen to have a Workflow to share? I'm heavily interested in getting this.

https://workflow.is/workflows/e194d7fdef0343649b6d037293b18c...

(There was a bug for a while where you had to insert an alert before opening the web page to make it work, but it seems to have been fixed recently so I've taken this out).

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by Sleeep »

reaperducer wrote: post #255
AlexandrB wrote: post #210

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It's not his job to fix Amazon's fraud issues. Amazon has billions of dollars at its disposal, it should invest some in quality control.

Your statement assumes that Amazon isn't investing anything in quality control. If you have evidence of this, please post it. Otherwise, you're just a troll.

My own two eyes?

At least ~30%+ of Amazon's products are cheap Chinese garbage resold from Albiaba under 10+ different "brands." (private label) There's are also tons of very obvious fake and counterfeit products that could be spotted with a simple human review of new listings.

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by Sleeep »

RobertKerans wrote: post #270
4ad wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Those are things you expect from a new car, and they're the reasons you buy a new car. Those are thing you expect from a new car, and they most certainly are not the reason I would buy a new car. > If I buy a brand new knife, I expect it to be sharp right from the factory. You might expect that, but the practical reality is that knives don't really come truly pre-sharpened, and there are many reasons for that. Peop…

That read as a satire of a hacker news response. It's a relatively expensive knife, it's not unreasonable to expect it to arrive with a sharp edge.

Knives and knife sharpening is a hobby for some people. These people are going to think any knife under $500 is garbage and any knife they didn't sharpen themselves is dull. They have their mind made up already.

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Post by Sleeep »

hanbura wrote: post #173
krapp wrote: post #159

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> It shouldn't be hard for Amazon to detect such behavior and improve it's reviews or scores. Why don't they do that? Amazon doesn't benefit financially from negative or average reviews, but they do benefit from the positive reviews, regardless of their legitimacy, as the parent poster demonstrated.

Of course Amazon benefits from negative reviews. In a brick-and-mortar shop I can physically inspect the product before buying to judge its quality. Online shops don't have that, so you either have to trust the shop, brand or review system. Since Amazon allows everyone on their platform, the review system is the only reason you can still buy noname products there. A good review system translates to trust, which enabl…

You can't really "inspect" most items in a B+M store. For example, if I buy a slow cooker I can see it in its package and see the display model. So? I don't know how well it cooks my fav dish.
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