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Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Post by codyb »

Vinnl wrote: post #265
tannhaeuser wrote: post #26

Thumbs up for Apple distinguishing themselves by their pro-privacy stance, as opposed to MS, who don't have anything to win by Win10's excessive "telemetry" IMHO.

I recently realised that any company taking on Google (e.g. Apple, Mozilla, ...) that is afraid they won't be able to take them on in areas like machine learning or sheer size, is realising, rightfully so, that being pro-privacy is the one thing they can compete on with Google that Google will never be able to imitate. Pretty sweet, actually.

I think a big thing about AI with Apple is the fact that their stance on privacy makes it a bit harder to compete with the harvested data sets of Google. From what I understand though, according to the reactions on the papers they released a bit back, they're not doing so poorly.

That being said, and I've never used Cortana or Alexa, but I hear they're pretty decent compared to Siri.

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Post by eklavya »

yborg wrote: post #248
flukus wrote: post #201

Advertisers will finally move their tracking behind their CDN's, which was always the end goal for them and why they were free in the first place. Then we have a problem where the industry is reliant enough on CDN's that browsers can't simply block access.

https://github.com/Synzvato/decentraleyes

Not available for Safari though.

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Post by beefsack »

Flimm wrote: post #270
abalone wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Pay is a generation ahead of chip and pin. It obviates the need to enter a PIN which is more convenient and invulnerable to attacks on PIN terminals, which have defeated chip and pin in the past.[1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMV

What about contactless cards? I personally find contactless cards, common in the UK, much more convenient than having to faff about with my phone, which may be out of battery.

Phone based payments seem to have really failed to gain momentum here in Australia too; we've had contactless cards for a few years now and they've become the norm, using a phone seems to have marginal benefit over that.

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Post by Sammi »

whoami_nr wrote: post #259
infinityplus1 wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does not appear for me. It's only for the private windows.

Oh. I am sorry. True, it doesn't appear for normal windows. Anyway, as some other user suggested, visit "about:config" and change the privacy settings there.

What key?

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Post by archvile »

abalone wrote: post #268
digi_owl wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds to me like they basically transferred chip-and-pin online. Maybe it is magical in the American sense, but i can't say i get the big whoop from the European side of the Atlantic...

Apple Pay is a generation ahead of chip and pin. It obviates the need to enter a PIN which is more convenient and invulnerable to attacks on PIN terminals, which have defeated chip and pin in the past.[1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMV

Some merchants I've noticed no matter how much you spend still require a signature, which I don't really understand. Others such as Kroger require a signature if it's over $50 but they don't take Apple Pay.

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Post by archvile »

ianai wrote: post #249
abalone wrote: post #194

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Apple Pay does offer enhanced privacy by not transmitting your name along with your card number, but it doesn't randomize the number with every transaction. In fact you may not want that as it would disrupt email receipt systems and loyalty programs (absent some parallel mechanism). Apple Pay does something called tokenization, and the goal is more fraud protection than privacy. It generates one new number at card en…

I think I just inched toward using Apple Pay. I've been very skeptical until now.

You should read the iOS security guide portion that explains Apple Pay, the security benefits and amount of thought that has gone into the system are pretty amazing.

https://www.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf

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Post by timlyo »

Flimm wrote: post #270
abalone wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Pay is a generation ahead of chip and pin. It obviates the need to enter a PIN which is more convenient and invulnerable to attacks on PIN terminals, which have defeated chip and pin in the past.[1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMV

What about contactless cards? I personally find contactless cards, common in the UK, much more convenient than having to faff about with my phone, which may be out of battery.

I find the opposite. My phone is just in my pocket, I pull it out tap the fingerprint scanner and I'm ready. My card is tucked away in my wallet and takes a bit longer.

Admittedly being out of battery is a hard problem, but I chose my phone partly because it has decent battery life.

Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Post by styfle »

flukus wrote: post #242
frio80 wrote: post #195

Looks like this will stop (after 24 hours) some companies from doing an initial redirection to set cookies for tracking purposes... Example: 1. Search Google for hockey sticks 2. Click on search result hockeystick.com 3. hockeystick.com issues a 302 to adcompany.com which then issues a 302 back to hockeystick.com Why the 302? Because in Safari, you could only access cookies in a 3rd party context if you've seen a dom…

Won't the browser show an error about a circular redirect? Or does that take a few bounces?

It wouldn't be circular if the URL was different, for example:

website.com

ad.com?u=website.com

website.com?loaded

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Post by tomcorrigan »

Flimm wrote: post #270
abalone wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Pay is a generation ahead of chip and pin. It obviates the need to enter a PIN which is more convenient and invulnerable to attacks on PIN terminals, which have defeated chip and pin in the past.[1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMV

What about contactless cards? I personally find contactless cards, common in the UK, much more convenient than having to faff about with my phone, which may be out of battery.

I am in Australia and we have had contactless payments for years. Apple Pay with an iPhone was more trouble than using a card. On the other hand since I got my Apple Watch I haven't carried credit cards with me. It started out as a 1 month experiment to see if I could survive and it has never been a problem.
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