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Re: My Next Mac Mini

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Blog post leaves out an important point: is it easy to get macOS running on that particular model? edit: The mini hasn't competed on a purely specs/price level since, perhaps, its first year or two of existence. There have long been better, similarly sized options if you don't care about OS X.

According to the Lifehacker article on building a Hackintosh, the process is a lot less fiddly than it used to be, and a lot more hardware is now supported. Other guides suggest that the NUC is mostly supported, bar a few issues (e.g. on-board mic doesn't work, not the infra-red sensor). However, even if you have a totally legit paid-up copy of OS-X, it's only licensed for installing on Apple hardware.

For most of the hackintosh ports onto the NUC or NUC-style hardware, the onboard Bluetooth/WiFi is usually not supported because there are no OS X drivers for the integrated chipset used. This is kind of a deal-breaker for me. The process of applying new OS revisions is also painful. I guess the hackintosh process is pretty straightforward on certain models of full-size motherboards, but I haven't seen a fully functioning SFF impementation. If there was one, I would get such a box.

Re: My Next Mac Mini

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Nowadays, I kind of enjoy seeing posts about people abandoning Apple ecosystem. Although it's painful, I myself have been yet another avid fan of pretty much Apple offered, it feels like this is not going to last forever. When they do the math, iPhone might seem the most lucrative (they seem not to care about anything else) but since they are killing the ecosystem with no Mac Pro, no Mac Mini and with so called pro M…

I don't buy this argument. Developers will work on platforms that have users with money to spend, even if the development hardware is poor value. In this sense, Apple has us hostage!

Developers will target platforms that have users with money to spend. I can have a team developing on a non apple platform, and then share one mac mini for final builds.

Re: My Next Mac Mini

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One of the big selling points of the mini is that it's really quiet. Does anyone with actual experience know how the NUC compares? From what I've read it's significantly louder, which is not what you want from a living room PC.

I have a NUC5i3RYH and you can (I have) set the fan control curve in the bios so that the fan stays off until the CPU reaches 75°C.

It is completely silent until you do some gpu/cpu intensive stuff for some time.

It is a lot better than my previous MSI cubi which had the fan always running and had a much mor annoying noise.

Re: My Next Mac Mini

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Digging around behind the tv and it's a oversize plug and thin wire rather than a laptop style plug-cable-transformer-cable-computer set up. Not quite the mains-to-box set up you're after.

:) Getting further off topic, the only other piece of hardware I know of where they bother is the Playstation. The XBoxes use ugly power bricks, just like the Wintel boxes.

The Xbox One S has an integrated power supply fortunately

Re: My Next Mac Mini

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I see what you are saying but you'd think you could update some of the chips in the mini without needing much company attention?

Apple doesn't just update chips and throw it over the wall. It is, for better or for worse, always a large scale qa, supply chain and engineering effort.

Still, I don't have the impression this was happening under Jobs. He would still had 2 guys in there, updating the chip in the Mini right now.

Total neglect of 60% of their products (Mac pro, Mac Mini), and ditching complete other productlines (Cinema displays, Routers) at the same time, is unprecedented...

I really think Cook is messing it up. Especially not even having the option of a regular keyboard on a 15" MBP, is almost insulting.

Re: My Next Mac Mini

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The same hardcore users who dislike the new Macbook Pros?

How many of those do you ? How many of those hardcore users actually do like the new MBP and do not bother talking about it ? I would honestly appreciate to see a bit more fact & figures instead of anecdotal evidence.

I'd love to see that too. Sales seems to be high for the MBP so maybe there's more quiet supporters than loud detractors. However the very existence of loud detractors about a product line, which historically has had far more fervent defenders than critics, indicates the hardcore users are unhappy overall.

Apple, more than any other tech company, usually attracts the "can do no wrong" type of fans. They're still around for this product lineup but much quieter than usual. That should be worrying for Apple, assuming they still care about Macs.

Re: My Next Mac Mini

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The same hardcore users who dislike the new Macbook Pros?

How many of those do you ? How many of those hardcore users actually do like the new MBP and do not bother talking about it ? I would honestly appreciate to see a bit more fact & figures instead of anecdotal evidence.

Yes - I know a bunch of software developers who excitedly bought one of the new MacBook pros on launch day. And Apple has said that by volume it was one of their best laptop launches ever. I think regarding the new mbps the internet echo chamber doesn't mirror reality.

Re: My Next Mac Mini

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"Never had to reboot". Yet every time I start my sparingly used Windows machine the first thing it wants me to do is reboot to install updates, and it's pretty insistent about it.

Re: My Next Mac Mini

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I guess they've painted themselves into a bit of a corner with the way they do their pricing, and product announcements with a lot of hype. If they were to do the kind of update you suggest, there would be a lot of bad press stating the obvious ("It's just the same as before, but faster and more RAM. No new alloys or anything!"), and it would drive down prices for inventory of the old model.

They've done plenty of speed bumps in the past, where the device is unchanged and they just upgrade the CPU to whatever is the latest.

Indeed, there is no announcement either. The price/spec just changes on the Apple Store. Most of the time, the reaction is positive - people just like to see that Apple care.

Keeping the same price for a machine over 3 years and not even going through the motion of offering spec bump is no very considerate. That really looks like Apple keep the line just for that sucker that is born every minute.

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