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You can also just switch it back to "Never" when you're done with your trip.
This is totally impractical.
Maybe it isn't practical, but at least it's what I did today.
Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re Dropped Off
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#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well it's the same company that creepily gives me a code interview in the app because it knows I go to a software company couple of times a week and pushes a job ad. Uber has a lot of sensitive information regarding users. Who goes where and when. This in the wrong hand can be very disastrous. E.g Trump to Uber: "gimme list of all people who to to mosques frequently. No tax for you." Uber: "Here you go. Just don't te…
You do know that your phone company already has that info, right?
I've never had the phone company suggest I apply for a job there based on things they know about me.
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#273I saw this earlier and had hopes that the update would just let me choose "While Using" in the app settings, like some other apps allow you even if they request access even while not using the app, but the settings only allow for "Always" or "Never" on iPhone. However, you can use Uber without allowing GPS, so it's not all or nothing. I'm a little disturbed that they need any information after I use Uber though. They…
Uber employee here. We were told the reason to track up to 5 mins after the trip is for fraud, ex if a driver doesn't end the trip when she is supposed to. and to figure out where the pick up spots for each address are. A large building may have multiple points where people get picked up or dropped off and knowing those points would be very useful for the drivers and riders. And just as a side note, take it with a fe…
idk if i'd trust anything uber tells me if i worked there.
same would go working at any sufficiently large org
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#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
A simpler option would be to get the customer to also swipe to end the ride (as an option). This way you get two sources for the end of the ride?
And what if the customer swipes early?
thats an easy thing to validate. If the vehicle is still moving, or if the driver also hasnt confirmed the trip has ended you can work it out.
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#275I saw this earlier and had hopes that the update would just let me choose "While Using" in the app settings, like some other apps allow you even if they request access even while not using the app, but the settings only allow for "Always" or "Never" on iPhone. However, you can use Uber without allowing GPS, so it's not all or nothing. I'm a little disturbed that they need any information after I use Uber though. They…
Uber employee here. We were told the reason to track up to 5 mins after the trip is for fraud, ex if a driver doesn't end the trip when she is supposed to. and to figure out where the pick up spots for each address are. A large building may have multiple points where people get picked up or dropped off and knowing those points would be very useful for the drivers and riders. And just as a side note, take it with a fe…
"Uber as a company is very ethical and takes the responsibility that we are entrusted with very seriously."
Probably every company has said that, yet we know how that usually turns out sooner rather than later (I'm looking at you, WhatsApp).
"So I know it's not easy to believe, and it's easy for me to say since I work here, but nothing nefarious is going on. If there was, we the engineers would be against it completely."
For now. What if a new higher manager comes and decides to use this information for other purposes (ad, sale etc.)? Some engineers might quit, but costumers can't take their data back.
My takeaway is: do not trust companies with more data than necessary to provide you a service and this is exactly such case.
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#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
> which is that data used for and which could it be used for currently, and what's planned? I don't know specific programs that are in place or upcoming, not my jam. > Does this mean that you actually do keep my individual GPS data and it could be looked up later? Trip location data is attached to users. You can look it up yourself on the Uber website (riders.uber.com). With regard to data collected from rider device…
Also, why isn't there an option to delete previous trip data? If Uber was really serious about user privacy, this would be a no brainer feature to offer.
It's not just your trip data, it's also your driver's. It would be wrong to allow you to delete the record of the trip.
It's also the case that the record of your trip isn't just data. It's the receipt for an actual thing that happened. A transaction between three or more parties takes place. That data needs to be preserved for any number of the reasons, including government compliance. Even just handling credit card disputes makes it invaluable.
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#277> Uber hopes to eliminate the most frustrating part of the experience: the game of phone tag that both the rider and driver play when trying to coordinate the pickup spot. This makes no sense to me. I tell them the pickup point so they don't need to know where I am since I already told them where I want to be picked up. Conversely I found it very frustrating they didn't (used to?) take destination into account. Examp…
I think there's a lot of variance between people, and it's largely a matter of preference. Some people are happy to walk a block or two in order to make the most efficient trip depending on where the driver is approaching from and where they're going, and some people just want to plop it down and not think about it and have the company/driver figure out how to come exactly to them and figure out which way to go.
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#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why not collect all the information you possibly can, whether or not you immediately see obvious value to it, and then find ways to justify it later? Because it's non-trivial and it costs a lot of money to do that, in terms of engineers' salaries, storage, etc.
> it costs a lot of money to do that Well they _have_ raised $15,000,000,000 in cash: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/21/business/dealbook/why-uber...
Well-run companies don't waste money just because they are flush with cash -- especially not when that cash represents board members who want their investment to pay off, not be frittered away on something with no business value.
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#279Re: Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re Dropped Off
#280I saw this earlier and had hopes that the update would just let me choose "While Using" in the app settings, like some other apps allow you even if they request access even while not using the app, but the settings only allow for "Always" or "Never" on iPhone. However, you can use Uber without allowing GPS, so it's not all or nothing. I'm a little disturbed that they need any information after I use Uber though. They…
There's a simple way to send a message: Set the location services setting to "Never" and just enter addresses for now (copy and paste from Maps if it's easier). The important thing is that their analytics will pick this up, and if enough users do it, hopefully point toward re-enabling "While using."
You can also continue to call Uber rides with location using Apple Maps, even if you don't give the Uber app location permission.