Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone • Hacker News Board

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by delegate » Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 6:37 PM UTC

The reference to Nest isn't a big plus in my book.

I've only heard bad things about it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpsMkLaEiOY

This phone isn't going to kill the iPhone - in fact it would take a big screwup on the part of Apple for people to start migrating away from its products. Not that Apple is incapable of screwing up, but so far they've sailed their ship pretty well.

Apart from the hardware, there's the whole ecosystem of app developers, programming environments, cloud services.. Ultimately it's about who can attract the more talented developers - and that is a lot more difficult than snapping a faster CPU or better camera in your phone.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by Sargos » Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 6:38 PM UTC

hyperbovine wrote: post #75

JshWright wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's going to be the only phone in replacement of the 6P and 5X. It seems they aren't interested in mid-range devices anymore.

That's crazy. $650 buy-in for what is for most people a somewhat risky wireless service proposition. Given their past track record of 86ing products this can't bode well.

The Pixel isn't locked to Fi. It can be used on any carrier. Fi is also pay as you go which means you can leave at any time. It's really not risky at all even if they shut it down tomorrow.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by WallowC_33 » Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 6:38 PM UTC

When Android is ~87% of the smartphone market, I somehow doubt Google views Apple's iPhone as the thing to beat.

http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by CaptSpify » Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 6:38 PM UTC

VikingCoder wrote: post #211

speeder wrote: post #180

Still sad it doesn't have a hardware keyboard. I really, really, really want a good phone with hardware keyboard. Even better if the dialer is not a common app, and is something you can access immediately even if the "user OS" crash.

Hardware keyboard is never, ever coming back. Ever.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/one-blackberry-upcoming-smartphon...

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by guelo » Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 6:38 PM UTC

Touche wrote: post #120

guelo wrote: post #92

The product announcement page https://blog.google/products/pixel/introducing-pixel-our-new...

Info on how to preorder is vague. Says it's available to preorder today, doesn't say where or how.

https://madeby.google.com/

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by Eridrus » Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 6:40 PM UTC

saddestcatever wrote: post #212

hocuspocus wrote: post #202

The pricing has been copied 1:1 from that of the iPhone 7. Whether in USD, CAD, GBP or EUR: exact same figures.

Good note. Funny how many users are mentioning price as their main reason for dismissing the Pixel

Oh those funny poor people trying to not get ripped off.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by arthurfm » Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 6:42 PM UTC

satysin wrote: post #165

All sounds good on paper (or video) but £599 entry price?! Now that is courage .

Also, US buyers get a free Daydream VR headset (worth £69) if they pre-order, whereas UK buyers don't. Very annoying especially since a 128GB Pixel XL costs £819!

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by andrewpi » Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 6:43 PM UTC

fleetfox wrote: post #263

Fej wrote: post #95

What is the draw here? I have been running my Nexus 5 into the ground (soldered on a new power button when the original broke) in anticipation of the next Nexus phone. Pixel is no Nexus. Seriously, what does this have that the year-old Nexus 6P and 5X don't, other than incremental hardware improvements? And a massive price hike? Why should I buy this? (Seriously, Google? You want $650 for a phone with a 1080p screen?…

Why do you bring up screen resolution? Both phones have 400+ ppi screens. You want more? Why?

VR headsets greatly benefit from a higher resolution. Even the 2K display on the late model Samsung phones produce low resolution when paired with a Gear VR. Supposedly this won't be resolved until 8k or even 16k mobile displays.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by dplgk » Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 6:44 PM UTC

yazaddaruvala wrote: post #177

mrspeaker wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anybody actually use these virtual assistants? They seem like the bluetooth dongle of the mid-2000s - friends wouldn't let friends use them. Is it just for people who drive? Or will there be a tipping point when it won't seem so arrogant barking commands on the subway or in a quiet office?

Every alarm, timer, and reminder I set (on my phone), are set by voice. I chose it because "Set an alarm for 8am" really is the best interface to interact with that subsystem.

I think parent is talking more about:

"Please buy tickets to concert"

"Front row tickets to concert purchased for $500"

"Wait no, buy the cheapest tickets!"

"Cancelling order! Purchased last row tickets for $10"

"Only $10? Well maybe I can spend a little more an not be in the last row"

etc

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by vamur » Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 6:45 PM UTC

No threat to either iPhone or Note 7 and incredibly overpriced. Pixel is basically a mid-range phone for high-end price. OnePlus 3 for $400 in mid-range or Meizu M3 Note for $140 in lower end are much better deals.