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A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 Light-Years Away

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Re: A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 Light-Years Away

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We wouldn't be able to see the probe itself, rather we'd see its laser. The planet outputs (or reflects) vastly more total light than the laser, but the laser is pointed directly at the receiver and can output more light in that specific direction than the planet does. Plus, to get interesting data about the planet we need to get quite a lot of light from it, whereas we can get data from the laser over time by pulsin…

>The planet outputs (or reflects) vastly more total light than the laser, but the laser is pointed directly at the receiver and can output more light in that specific direction than the planet does. So then the problem is that you need a laser than can hit a 1 km^2 target from 40 trillion km away?

No, the laser would point in the general direction of the sun and as long as Earth is within the cone it has the potential to detect the signal. The laser just happens to focus all of its energy in one narrow cone as opposed to all directions.

Re: A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 Light-Years Away

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I wonder what plans they have for communicating with a probe light-years away. Consider New Horizons. It has a power budget and antenna gain way beyond something that can be crammed into a few grams. Yet, the bit rate is so low it's still sending back data it gathered in 2015 from an encounter mere light-hours away. Even if the laser propulsion aspect of this works out, I think communicating with something that far a…

Vince Cerf is working on interstellar communication: http://www.icarusinterstellar.org/vint-cerf-qa-on-interstell...

While Vince is a much more common name, the man in question is named Vinton (commonly shortened to Vint).

Re: A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 Light-Years Away

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Agreed on the extreme skepticism warranted. I am imagining these "solar sails" to be essentially spherical, both for structural reasons and so that their response to applied laser power does not depend on orientation. The electronics in precision guided mortars in the US army survive 50,000g. http://proceedings.ndia.org/C347/Davis.pdf (This is only for the fraction of a second when they are fired, and I don't know ho…

> The electronics in precision guided mortars in the US army survive 50,000g And then are immediately 'disposed of'. That is, quite literally, a fire-and-forget problem; those electronics don't have to keep working for months or years.

Similar to XorNot, I don't really see the mechanism by which high acceleration could substantially reduce long-term reliability of the solid state electronics without breaking them completely.

Re: A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 Light-Years Away

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According to Wolfram Alpha, an iPhone 6 Plus which weighs in at 192 grams would have about 3.558×10^14 joules of kinetic energy at .2c, or about 85 kilotons of TNT. That's roughly 4 times the energy of the Fat Man bomb dropped on Nagasaki. Not the biggest boom in the world, but certainly nothing to scoff at.

Nice! Thanks for adding the math to my joke. :)

Math makes all jokes funnier. Right?
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