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Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by ux-app »

LandoCalrissian wrote: post #182
jotux wrote: post #104

It's strange to me that these salary discussions are so narrowly focused on just pay/bonus and don't seem to care about benefits and work/life balance. Here's stuff I track in my own career spreadsheet and compare new jobs against these metrics when considering a new one: * Vacation, sick, and holiday time off * Distance to work and traffic considerations * Relative cost of living * Health insurance cost and coverage…

This is why I have stayed at my current company so long. They give us unlimited PTO, free public transit, good 401k matching, good healthcare and the relative cost of living is great. Hours are reasonable and maintaining work life balance is encouraged at all times. I could leave and probably make quite a bit more, but I don't think all the benefits would come along with it. Also the relative cost of living almost gu…

  > They give us unlimited PTO,
This is one of the most pernicious anti-perks around. I'd like 12 months of leave at full pay thanks. This 'perk' actually ends up having the opposite effect. People take less time off because of guilt or lack of confidence in what is a 'reasonable' amount of time off to take.

Tell me exactly the number of days off I can have and make them no questions asked. That way I can clock out and forget that the office exists for 4 weeks or more. At my current employer I have 13 weeks of scheduled paid time off, plus paid paternity leave and 20 paid no questions asked sick/family leave days which roll over from year to year.

Unlimited PTO is a cold hearted, calculated sham which has been designed to screw you over [1][2]

The rest of the benefits you're getting sounds quite good.

[1] - http://www.inc.com/gene-marks/why-unlimited-paid-time-off-is...

[2] - http://www.forbes.com/sites/lizryan/2015/08/26/unlimited-vac...

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by hodwik »

bsharitt wrote: post #242
webrender wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a1Df6dg2Pby1UoNlZU2l...

Weird. I can click on that link and it forces a redirect to the HTML view, but I can copy/paste it to a private window(i.e. not logged into Google) and it works fine.

I tried this in two browsers, both in private windows, and still get HTMLview.

If someone has downloaded this, could you put it up somewhere else please?

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by qaid »

ux-app wrote: post #271
LandoCalrissian wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I have stayed at my current company so long. They give us unlimited PTO, free public transit, good 401k matching, good healthcare and the relative cost of living is great. Hours are reasonable and maintaining work life balance is encouraged at all times. I could leave and probably make quite a bit more, but I don't think all the benefits would come along with it. Also the relative cost of living almost gu…

> They give us unlimited PTO, This is one of the most pernicious anti-perks around. I'd like 12 months of leave at full pay thanks. This 'perk' actually ends up having the opposite effect. People take less time off because of guilt or lack of confidence in what is a 'reasonable' amount of time off to take. Tell me exactly the number of days off I can have and make them no questions asked. That way I can clock out and…

13 weeks!? Can you at least give me a hint at which company you work at?

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by timv »

sakopov wrote: post #231

I see a lot of senior engineers with just a couple or a few years of experience. This is interesting...

A few of the examples I saw were for people working in consultancies.

It's in the consultancy's interests to charge you out as a "senior", so they tend to push you up quite quickly.

But then when people leave the consultancy they don't want to drop from "senior" to regular, and they new employer says "what do I care, it's just a title", so you now you have someone with 2 years total experience, coming into a telco as a "senior engineer".

Now the people that have been there for 4 years complain that they're more senior than this new guys, so they get bumped to "senior" as well, but now the genuinely senior engineers want a new title, so they get to be a "solution designer" or something like that...

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by base698 »

akhilcacharya wrote: post #3

$122K in RDU seems very high for a developer/engineer, strange.

I made $99K with about 7ish years experience and had friends that were in the $130K range about 5 years ago. It seemed high then too.

I was interviewing when I found the $99K job and another company said they'd pay $80K, but want to me work minimum 60 hours.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by base698 »

samstave wrote: post #42
eitally wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is high, but it depends on experience and who they work for. More common for people with 5-7yr experience is in the 90-110k range, but it's not abnormal to find skilled folks at places like SAS, Cisco, Citrix, Redhat, MS, Lenovo, BASF, IBM, NetApp, and many more earning above mean salaries. Source: live in RDU, was an engineering director until last summer, hired lots of people here over the years and know a bunch…

What/where is RDU?

Most of the Clojure community seems centered in Durham now. Pretty wild.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by colordrops »

jotux wrote: post #104

It's strange to me that these salary discussions are so narrowly focused on just pay/bonus and don't seem to care about benefits and work/life balance. Here's stuff I track in my own career spreadsheet and compare new jobs against these metrics when considering a new one: * Vacation, sick, and holiday time off * Distance to work and traffic considerations * Relative cost of living * Health insurance cost and coverage…

    * Belief in company's mission, how passionate you are about what they do

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by honua »

ux-app wrote: post #271
LandoCalrissian wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I have stayed at my current company so long. They give us unlimited PTO, free public transit, good 401k matching, good healthcare and the relative cost of living is great. Hours are reasonable and maintaining work life balance is encouraged at all times. I could leave and probably make quite a bit more, but I don't think all the benefits would come along with it. Also the relative cost of living almost gu…

> They give us unlimited PTO, This is one of the most pernicious anti-perks around. I'd like 12 months of leave at full pay thanks. This 'perk' actually ends up having the opposite effect. People take less time off because of guilt or lack of confidence in what is a 'reasonable' amount of time off to take. Tell me exactly the number of days off I can have and make them no questions asked. That way I can clock out and…

Edit: Sorry, I didn't read all of your post before I reacted. I see you've said about the same as I have here.

Unedit: The best balance seems to be setting a lower bound. E.g. at my employer we have 25 days PTO minimum, and actually if we don't meet that and leave the company they've contractually obligated themselves to pay that back to you. So we're very much encouraged to hit that limit and it's very common to exceed it.

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