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As a developer my first question would be: Can I dual boot linux on it? If so it would be an extremely attractive developer machine and switch to Windows when you need it. The hardware is the show stealer here.
It seems like running in a VM is a much more attractive option than dual booting these days. The performance hit is negligible (especially with 16GB RAM), you can use both OSes at the same time, and you can use all the native Windows touch/pen drivers and have them carry over to the VM.
New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft
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#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sorry, I guess by referring to Apple I confused the point. You went off on some pointless irrelevant rant. How about I mention Google instead? http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2478157,00.asp http://www.androidcentral.com/google-says-look-out-more-usb-... USB-C is an open standard that is not controlled by Apple.
Oh no, "melling" thinks my response was pointless and irrelevant - what to do? Does anyone else find it hilarious that this is coming from a guy who cares about USB-C which is largely pointless and irrelevant in this thread? You got all the responses and downvotes that you deserve.
It also doubles the throughput of the older standard. It's a $1500 device so people who buy it will probably be using it in 4-5 years. I'd rather spend $20 on an adapter cable now and be able to support the better standard next year.
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#273I am very interested in learning how they provide 12 hours of usage for the Surface Book. What do they disable to extend the life? They battery capacity?
In short, if you use it like a tablet, you get typical tablet battery. If you have it docked to the stand to use the dedicated GPU etc, I assume you're going to get more typical windows laptop battery life. But that's not much different from my MBP either, I usually get about 5-6 hours of battery life rather than 10-12 because I use it a lot for the things I actually needed to buy a MBP for, which isn't just watching video and checking my mail.
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#274I currently use a toshiba click2pro [1] as my laptop of choice. This device has the same spirit as the surface book, but fails on many ends where I see the surface book exceeding. So far I have not seen any other manufacture crack the right formula for this type of device. The Asus transformer book, HP Spectre, Toshiba click all have their drawbacks or just weren't design right.
Take my Toshiba click 2 pro for example. 1. the weight of the LCD is heavier than the keyboard dock causing the laptop to be top heavy when moving it around. Toshiba circumvented this by docking the screen not at the the where the dock and keyboard meet, but by moving the docking location in a bit the lcd will stay without being top heavy and failing over. 2. The keyboard dock has potential to add components such as extra internal storage when docked, adding another battery cell in the dock, adding dedicated graphics. 3. The docking hinge is awful this is the main problem that I currently see with these devices. All the 2 in 1 have terrible hinge technology to hold the device together.
Now Microsoft has gone and put a lot of thought into this device and I believe they have a winner. The have set the bar for this type of device and other manufactures will be coming with their own devices. The hybrid 2 in 1, a true laptop and tablet device. Why Microsoft will succeed is because they have not only looked as design, but they have put a lot of thought into performance and functionality. From adding dedicated graphics to the keyboard dock it transforms the tablet to a true power house of a laptop. Also from what I saw, they added extra batteries in the keyboard dock by doing this they have distributed the weight of the components. I hope to see more analysis on the weight and feel of the device. The hinge looks to be highly in house designed. There was a talk about how Microsoft built the surface pro 3 [2] and watching the talk you can see that Microsoft spent a lot of time designing the components to be functional. I highly believe that the "dynamic fulcrum" hinge is a step way above of what other manufactures have done so far for a device of this type. I hope we get analysis on the hinge.
A device that blurs lines between the laptop and tablet. Between entertainment and performance. For some time we were split between a tablet device running an OS system that was designed for entertainment consumption, not being able to have the power to do more intensive tasks yet manufactures trying to sell it as if it could. (iPad Pro, the new Pixel C) to having to choose between OSX or windows for when we truly needed the power of full operating system. Like another comments stated we are seeing where Microsoft and Apple are heading. Microsoft is blurring the line of devices and like they stated are making us the hub where we are allowed to use our devices in different ways. To docking your phone to enjoy the desktop experience under continuum to using the surface book while lounging around and browsing as a tablet. I am liking where Microsoft is heading.
[1] http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2468274,00. [2] https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Ignite/2015/BRK3302
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#275Page looks bad and it loads so slow! At some point, the msdn pages were awesomely fast and I would've imagined they spent more time on load testing for such a crucial day. That aside, the product looks very interesting. I was a Windows user for a long time and switched to Mac in the last few years. This makes me want to give the newbie a try.
On top of that there is a typo: "Intel HG Graphics" http://i.imgur.com/kLt8Ydz.png
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#276Let's hope the Surface Book will be succesful and Apple finally gets serious competition in the premium laptop market.
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#277Page looks bad and it loads so slow! At some point, the msdn pages were awesomely fast and I would've imagined they spent more time on load testing for such a crucial day. That aside, the product looks very interesting. I was a Windows user for a long time and switched to Mac in the last few years. This makes me want to give the newbie a try.
On top of that there is a typo: "Intel HG Graphics" http://i.imgur.com/kLt8Ydz.png
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My hunch is both halves have a battery. Also that 12 hours is listed as video playback, which is not how Apple measures.
Or they're just misleading about how they measure the battery life. We used to have "8h of battery life" 10 years ago, when in fact they lasted 3h. Apple has done this, too, more and more lately unfortunately. Their "12h" battery life is more like 8h for moderate usage.
With all the low power states and stuff, when you're actually using the CPU for a while, the battery life easily cuts in half.
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> PowerShell = bash While a great fan of PowerShell in theory , in practice it seems to be extremely cumbersome. Sort of the opposite of bash and other Unix shells, which suck in theory and are very useful/convenient/powerful in practice.
Cumbersome or you just aren't familiar with it yet? The whole design of PS is meant to make it so you can "guess" the names of cmdlets you've never used before. Everything is Verb-Noun, Get-Service, New-Service, Restart-Service, Stop-Service, etc. Discoverability is valued over succinctness.
Get-Content = gc or cat
for example