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Poll: Did you “drop Dropbox”?

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Re: Poll: Did you “drop Dropbox”?

#261
I switched to Copy.com, because it was the only option I could find which met all of my criteria:

[1] Actually works, reliably

[2] Works on Linux

[3] Generous free quota

Of course, I'm probably not the best customer profile to target. I'm a shameless freeloader, and would never even consider paying money to go beyond a free quota. Until my home Internet service is an order of magnitude faster, these services are only useful to me for simple file sharing and photo backup.

Truth be told, I would drop Copy.com and consolidate around Google Drive if they had a simple "automatically backup my cell phone pictures" feature. I can get Drive to work on Linux, and that's already where most of my word processing documents reside. Unfortunately, Google's photo backup feature is tied to G+ rather than Drive, which makes it useless at best.

Re: Poll: Did you “drop Dropbox”?

#262
Al Gore sits on the Apple board; has anyone stopped buying Apple products for that reason? "But Al Gore wasn't part of an administration that killed thousands of innocents in a war!" Have you forgotten about Serbia and Sudan? "But Al Gore isn't a war criminal!" Have you forgotten that he was the one who convinced Clinton to start the entire policy of "extraordinary rendition"?

Re: Poll: Did you “drop Dropbox”?

#264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Politics" is discrete from ethics. Condi is a pariah, ethically speaking-- a war criminal walking free. Political links to the US govt are also a bit of a hazard-- the more you willingly approach them and enable them, the more they will take from your pocket and the more they will push you around. The Snowden leaks have painted a bad picture of the US companies as a result of their compliance with ridiculous governm…

I'm certainly no fan of hers but "war criminal" is a label that's thrown around way too often with no basis or grounding. It's too often used to describe someone who engaged in some kind of war someone else doesn't like, so they're labeled as such. The actual term stems from The Hague conventions, which were not violated by her or the U.S. in this case.

From Condi's Wikipedia article: A Senate Intelligence Committee reported that on July 17, 2002, Rice met with CIA director George Tenet to personally convey the Bush administration's approval of the proposed waterboarding of alleged Al Qaeda leader Abu Zubaydah.

Direct approval of torture.

From Wikipedia's page on war crimes:

A war crime is a serious violation of the laws and customs of war (also known as international humanitarian law) giving rise to individual criminal responsibility. Examples of war crimes such as:[1]

    murdering, mistreating, or deporting civilian residents of an occupied territory to slave labor camps

    murdering or mistreating prisoners of war or civilian internees
Condi seems to fit the bill perfectly.

Re: Poll: Did you “drop Dropbox”?

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post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> exactly what we are up against already There's that pesky collective noun again. Again, you labor under a delusion of a shared struggle. > one can easily point out attempts that have already been made to protect previously established industries. Such as a company that's raised over a billion dollars seeking to protect its position in a lucrative market by appointing politically well-connected board members? No way…

> I was able to argue back without resorting to name calling. And so was I. What's your point? You use words like "naiveté", "delusion", "meaningless" which are clearly derogatory so you are wrong again. Hilariously your comment "all the comments I've seen thus far are civil" completely rung true until you got involved.

Then perhaps we misunderstand each other. I used those terms to describe (accurately, in my opinion) your opinions, they have nothing to do with you as a person.

Re: Poll: Did you “drop Dropbox”?

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post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> exactly what we are up against already There's that pesky collective noun again. Again, you labor under a delusion of a shared struggle. > one can easily point out attempts that have already been made to protect previously established industries. Such as a company that's raised over a billion dollars seeking to protect its position in a lucrative market by appointing politically well-connected board members? No way…

"Astonishing naiveté." "delusion of a shared struggle" "What a meaningless statement." "Post on your blog if you don't want your opinion torn apart like a piece of meat" You have not been "civil". Quit being an ass.

Am I a tool or an ass? Do you have anything of substance to add?

Re: Poll: Did you “drop Dropbox”?

#267
I continue to use Dropbox as my company is paying for it anyway which makes my dropbox limit bigger than my hard-drive will ever be and it doesn't make sense to make my own life harder for political reasons. On the other hand I also use TOR :)

Re: Poll: Did you “drop Dropbox”?

#268
post #102

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I meant political persuasion as-in this isn't about right/left or good/bad for me.

At least for me, that's why you don't get an upvote (you'd get a downvote if I could give one). You keep painting this as a political issue, when it isn't. The point is not that Rice is controversial, or a republican. The point is that by international standards, she's a WAR CRIMINAL. So you're not interested in politics. Fantastic. In 1930's Germany you'd be the idiot with his head in the sand, talking about how the…

She's in a board position at Dropbox which has nothing to do with Nazi Germany. She's probably not going to commit war crimes from this position...

And in all honesty I don't think you have any clue what my perspective would be if I had been there in the 1930s. I think it's quite likely that I'd be anti-genocide, anti-authoritarian and quite willing to stand in front of the persecutory masses and tell them what I believe. What I'm trying to say quite nicely to you, is can you quit slandering me?

Re: Poll: Did you “drop Dropbox”?

#269

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Yeah she is female and black so plenty for the right to hate.

While a large swath of people believe that conservatives hate women and people that aren't white, this is not the case. Racists prejudice a specific race. Sexists prejudice a specific gender. Conservatives, however, are just people that have a different view on how a country should be run. These three things are completely separate qualities. Some people may exhibit several of these qualities, while others do not. I…

Actually I doubt many people truly believe that "conservatives hate women and non-whites", it's just a rhetorical hammer used by those arguing against conservatives. Whether the argument is fallacious and/or inaccurate really doesn't matter.

I was about to say something like "welcome to modern politics", except we have evidence of this kind of thing going on since elections in ancient Rome, and it's probably far older than that, too. So "welcome to human nature", maybe.

Re: Poll: Did you “drop Dropbox”?

#270

I did, and then I reinstalled it when I saw that it's the only thing that works. Alternatives aren't as good as dropbox. Google drive is a close second, but without official linux client it's borderline useless to me - also their photo backup system is too complicated with g+, private/public albums, sharing, galleries etc and I don't want to spend time figuring it out when I just want simple photo backup service that…

> Google drive is a close second, but without official linux client it's borderline useless to me - also their photo backup system is too complicated with g+, private/public albums, sharing, galleries etc and I don't want to spend time figuring it out when I just want simple photo backup service that I enable with one click.

My thoughts exactly.

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