awesome, linode or DO, if you're small or media companies, no other options should be considered at all, even AWS or Google Cloud.
The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
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Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
All these anecdotes make one wonder why these people aren't simply going to hetzner and ovh and simply get a dedicated server for just slightly more (meaning $25/month).
Well for me, it's because although they're cheap and dedicated, servers, they aren't particularly good machines and the support is pretty much what you'd expect at that price (very basic). That being said, I do think they're great value, and I have a reverse bidding dedicated server from Hetzner, that I use as a test and staging server. But I wouldn't dream of using them for production instances though - for the amou…
Why not use this as an opportunity to make your server redundant ? If you don't have the time drbd + front-end load-balancers (e.g. on ec2, but just sending 403's, nothing else) , for example. Really interesting to setup, and there are plenty of cases where good support can't really help you either.
Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some types of sites need disk more than RAM, and that market is really weird right now too. I run a service that could get away with only 8GB of RAM, but definitely needs at least 2TB of space, plus plenty of room to grow.
When numbers start getting up into that territory, I tend to look at the discount dedicated servers. WholeSaleInternet for example, currently has a Quad-Core Xeon E3 1230 for sale at $49/month with 5 IP Addresses. 1GBPS connection with 10TB bandwidth with 8GB of RAM / 250GB of Hard Drive. If that 2TB Hard Drive is really needed, you can compromise on the CPU and go for a consumer-grade AMD Fx-4100 (Quad-Core AMD) fro…
Exactly, for that situation, I ended up going with an entirely overpowered dedicated server with an E5 and 32GB of RAM. I shopped around, but was very conscience of network quality, quality of support I'd get, and was still able to get away with paying about $250/mo, which is very reasonable compared to any kind of cloud offering.
Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
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Most of the notifications are about "short periods of higher latency and packet loss", which I can totally tolerate. The last "5-10 minutes disconnect" happened in November 2013.
If it were just higher latency, I'd agree. But packet loss is a bit different.
Packet loss is high latency when you are dealing with TCP. So unless you are streaming something over UDP or rely on ICMP for something like monitoring, you are fine.
Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#265It looks like Linode are still leaving the "incredibly cheap tiny box" market to DO. Linode's cheapest option is $20/month, which makes it slightly less useful for the kind of "so cheap you don't even think about it" boxes that DO provide.
One reason Linode doesn't offer "tiny boxes" is that they, like other companies, are worried about running out of IPv4 addresses.
$2 boxes are ripe for abuse and billing fraud.
Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
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> OTOH the lowest ($20) tier on Linode is probably used by more serious projects that, on average, exert considerable load. I'm not sure about that. For me, I pay the extra few bucks on Linode for the customer service, stability, and the consistent performance. I'm not running my VMs ragged, I'm just willing to pay a little more for a higher quality service. Anecdotally, it's a quality thing for me. Digital Ocean = E…
Your anecdotes (just like everyones) are meaningless. If you some evidence that DO is inferior at the same price level as Linode then you should post it. I was with Linode and had to deal with constant outages (at Fremont DC) and went through two major hacking incidents where I found out through Reddit instead of from them. I've never been with a worse provider than Linode.
Without anecdotes, HN would be mostly devoid of content. Let's not be silly.
> If you some evidence that DO is inferior at the same price level as Linode then you should post it.
I don't care to do this, I'm not out to prove anything. I'm here to share my experiences. Take them or leave them, I don't care either way.
If you are using DO and you like it, then stick with it. I've personally been happy with DO (for the price), but feel like you get what you pay for in this regard. Sometimes over-provisioned host machines, erratic network and disk IO, frequent maintenance windows, slow and hurried customer service.
Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#267Why do I pay Linode $20/month instead of paying DO $5/month(1)? Because Linode treats their servers like kittens (upgrades, addons/options, support), and DO treats their servers like cattle. There's nothing wrong with the cattle model of managing servers. But I'm not using Chef or Puppet, I just have one server that I use to put stuff up on the internet and host a few services. And Linode treats that one solitary ser…
Just a side node, I occasionally use SSH tunneling to get through the evil local government Internet censoring, so I have a linode a DO (just sever months), and linode's SSH tunneling is much much more fast and stable.
Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your anecdotes (just like everyones) are meaningless. If you some evidence that DO is inferior at the same price level as Linode then you should post it. I was with Linode and had to deal with constant outages (at Fremont DC) and went through two major hacking incidents where I found out through Reddit instead of from them. I've never been with a worse provider than Linode.
All these anecdotes make one wonder why these people aren't simply going to hetzner and ovh and simply get a dedicated server for just slightly more (meaning $25/month).
Because we're not all EU citizens? OVH's pricing for Americans starts at $50/mo.
Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#269Earlier quoted context omitted.
All these anecdotes make one wonder why these people aren't simply going to hetzner and ovh and simply get a dedicated server for just slightly more (meaning $25/month).
Or you can go with http://kimsufi.com and get a 2GB RAM dedicated server for $13 a month.
Not if you're an American. Kimsufi servers, last I checked, are sold to EU residents only.
Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more
#270Why do I pay Linode $20/month instead of paying DO $5/month(1)? Because Linode treats their servers like kittens (upgrades, addons/options, support), and DO treats their servers like cattle. There's nothing wrong with the cattle model of managing servers. But I'm not using Chef or Puppet, I just have one server that I use to put stuff up on the internet and host a few services. And Linode treats that one solitary ser…
I moved from Linode to Digital Ocean because of the price and I've noticed no change in level of service. And the support, which I've used several times at both has always been incredibly quick, accurate and useful.
I was however happy to have a viable alternative to Linode. I found their handling of the two hacking incidents to be completely disrespectful to me as a customer.