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Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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I thought DHTML was "dynamic" HTML, as made popular by the Dynamic Duo: http://grox.net/doc/web/javascript/dynduo/

You are correct, it was, as my dog-eared copy of O'Reilly's doorstop on the subject ( http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781565924949.do ) can attest. Hey, there's another one for the list: only '90s web developers know what it's like to have to learn new technologies by going to Barnes & Noble and buying a book about them.

Buy books?! who the hell does that. No, you would go to Barnes and Noble, or Borders, find a nice comfy chair and read until your eyes bled. You justified it by reminding yourself that the book was already obsolete from the moment it was printed so you didn't need to buy it, anyway.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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I am so, so, so sad that Yahoo! shut down Geocities, because they took with them the Pokemon fan website that I made when I was just learning this whole 'HTML' thing for the first time. I even remember the exact full URL of the website[0]. But between the demise of Geocities and the demise of my 386's hard drive, that piece of nostalgia is gone forever. I remember dedicating a page to all of the different "strategies…

This reminded me of my pokemon fan site (Poketown) from 2000. https://web.archive.org/web/20000510132913/http://poketown.o... Looks like I was a pattern of grid design (ala tables) back then.

Has everyone made a Pokemon site as part of some rite of passage or something? One of the first things I did to teach myself Perl and HTML back in the day was write a Pokedex page.

Maybe Pokemon can be the new Hello World.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am so, so, so sad that Yahoo! shut down Geocities, because they took with them the Pokemon fan website that I made when I was just learning this whole 'HTML' thing for the first time. I even remember the exact full URL of the website[0]. But between the demise of Geocities and the demise of my 386's hard drive, that piece of nostalgia is gone forever. I remember dedicating a page to all of the different "strategies…

have you tried looking for it here? https://archive.org/web/geocities.php

Unfortunately, it's neither there nor on Reocities. :(

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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A part of me wished I was in my late 20's in that era, not a 12 year old kid. Oh the riches to be had.

Dude, an ICQ clone just sold for $19 billion. Still plenty of riches to be had.

yep, in an era where there are tens of thousands of apps flooding the App Store, and millions of people competing with you in SEO

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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post #5

I thought DHTML was "dynamic" HTML, as made popular by the Dynamic Duo: http://grox.net/doc/web/javascript/dynduo/

It was a joke related to everyone falling over themselves now for distributed anything in the way that everyone fell themselves for anything dynamic back in the day.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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Remember when VRML was going to be the next big thing and we were all going to be moving through 3d websites?

I remember when SGI came by to demo their VRML viewer with an animated character. During Q&A I commented that the web made it easy to learn by 'view source'; "how do you do that with VRML?" I remember being dissatisfied with their response. (I think you were supposed to use one of their authoring tools for it?)

Was it Floops?

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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Oh God, I remember . And the tag. And I remember I made a Java applet that consumed so many resources that everyone who visited my page thought their machine had locked up. Good times.

I remember a friend would troll me by obscuring a url which led to this website that hosted an image with a ridiculously large resolution for computer hardware of the time to render, resulting in a BSOD within 10 seconds. Got me every time!

this was still a problem until very recently. A few years ago I linked a 50k by 50k image in an IRC channel, 2 people experienced an X crash and one had a kernel panic.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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I remember using images that looked almost identical to in place of an actual tag. Plus the million variations (you didn't have a real site until you have a image that matched your theme).

I remember the 1x1 transparent pixel with great affection---it was the output of my first significant CGI script (in Perl, of course) that I used as a site counter.

Winsock! Fuck yeah!

I remember when a web page and a gopher site looked almost identical (yes, gopher was quite cool for awhile).

The Table vs CSS wars never ended and are just in a temporary cease fire.

I started my own webring. And ring of rings. And proudly displayed my "made with notepad" button. And the black one with the red ribbon for... 2600? or EFF?

The most popular websites were vast collections of poorly transcribed midi collections that took years to master as every fucktard in middle school band uploaded a slightly different version of every song on earth. Twice, if it was Stairway to Heaven.

I was a webmaster.

Everyone bitched about SSI and its security holes but everyone used it anyway because fuck you, inline or die! Except it was universally only used for image counters and random quote generators.

My local ISP gave everyone a shell, email, ftp, and web account. You just had to figure out SLIP and PPP.

State of the art at one point was dialing into a local BBS to access their internet connection so you could use lynx to pull up the first sites.

Animated GIFs will survive cockroaches.

Frontpage when it first came out was a horrible POS. It would randomly move half your links, reformat them, rearrange your files, and change your background to bright red. Just, well, who the fuck knows why.

TABLES WITH 3D BORDER SUPPORT. FUCK YEAH. IT'S NOT A 3D BUTTON UNTIL IT'S IN ITS OWN 3D TABLE FOR EMPHASIS.

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Even though browsers have all kinds of compatibility issues now, they are mostly minor. There were several years where IE would say "we're just going to put in our own marquee tab, why the fuck not?" then Netscape would say "We're all going to VRML. Oh and you can set the background color" and IE would say "Shit, we're just going to put a TV in here. You want a TV? Use IE." and Netscape would say "Fucking A, our new tag actually purrs. Does IE have support? NO! (because we just invented it)" and Netscape would say "DUDE. LLLLLAAAAYYYYERRRZZZZZZ AND SHIT" and IE would say "FUCK IT WE'LL JUST PUT A WHOLE OTHER BROWSER FRAME IN YOUR BROWSER FRAME."

It really was quite a crazy and extremely blatant war over the future. IE won when it's "waiting" icon because a large spinning globe and a million VB ActiveX developers were unleashed upon the world. That was just the jihad, though. The battle was actually won when Gates just stonewalled the shit out of the courts for 4 years, causing Netscape to slowly lose their mind until they became convinced that rewriting their entire fucking code base was the way forward.

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