HP Chromebook 11 • Hacker News Board

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by pjmlp » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 5:58 PM UTC

Mikeb85 wrote: post #255

pjmlp wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On my dictionary, giving up my rights to use an hypertext document system is not freedom.

What rights do you give up by using an OS that is almost entirely open source? (keep in mind Linux has closed source parts too, some drivers for example) If you dislike the paradigm that's fine, but don't claim it's hurting your freedom when a) it's open source and b) you can modify it the way you see fit. Heck, you can change the Chromium OS source, recompile it and throw it on a Chromebook if you want...

It is not an OS, it is a browser.

All applications are behind SaaS walls.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by Mikeb85 » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 6:59 PM UTC

pjmlp wrote: post #261

Mikeb85 wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What rights do you give up by using an OS that is almost entirely open source? (keep in mind Linux has closed source parts too, some drivers for example) If you dislike the paradigm that's fine, but don't claim it's hurting your freedom when a) it's open source and b) you can modify it the way you see fit. Heck, you can change the Chromium OS source, recompile it and throw it on a Chromebook if you want...

It is not an OS, it is a browser. All applications are behind SaaS walls.

Please, there's web caching, app manifests, and all sorts of other ways and standards to create web apps which run 100% on the user's machine. Applications need not be behind an SaaS wall anymore than video games need online DRM....

And Chrome OS absolutely IS an OS. The fact that it's centred conceptually around the Chromium browser and Google's proprietary bits doesn't make this less true.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by guiomie » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 10:41 PM UTC

AsymetricCom wrote: post #222

guiomie wrote: post #129

can you do developement without pain on those?

You will cause no pain to Google by developing on these.

Not sure to understand ...

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by kfir » Thu, Oct 10, 2013, 1:49 PM UTC

devcpp wrote: post #218

Osmium wrote: post #40

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If we have to have corporate oversight to get a decent OS, then I'd rather one I pay (e.g. Apple for iOS) than one I don't (e.g. Google for Android/Chrome OS). I want to be the customer, not the product being sold. Even if that's not what you want, choice is still a good thing: without choice, we have vendor lock-in and stagnation of ideas. To pick an example, I think the mobile ecosystem would be a lot better right…

Don't talk shit on Android. It is FOSS, therefore it respects your 4 freedoms, unlike iOS, which you cited. Agreed on Chrome OS. I'll stay with my cheap old Linux Thinkpad. My remote services run on my server at home anyway and they're pretty close to what Google offers, minus the sleek look (who cares, I'm functional).

"Don't talk shit on Android. It is FOSS" - is it? did you ever commit code to it? did anyone outside of google and other corp ever committed code to it?