Why was my email leaked? • Hacker News Board

Re: Why was my email leaked?

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Post by minm » Sat, Mar 02, 2013, 2:20 AM UTC

ricardobeat wrote: post #220

niggler wrote: post #206

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I still think you missed my point. The only way in which you could have been deceived is if you went into the discussion assuming no conflict of interest. Years of dealing with financial media and experts has rendered me incredibly cynical, so I focused on the author's claims (which, in this case, are true -- If the product acts as the website claims, the self-hosted solutions store credentials on your servers and no…

I did read that after seeing it in another thread. Thankfully HN is nothing like the financial world. I might enter a marketing forum with that mindset, but knowledge and recognition are the currencies here, not money, so the rules are a bit different.

I wish it were the case. But please analyse majority of the top posts in HN with an open mind. One can clearly see the connection SV --> Funding --> YC --> TC. The outsiders are treated or ignored like pariahs. Have you heard a term "Made in SV". It may be subtle. But it is there.

Re: Why was my email leaked?

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Post by niggler » Sat, Mar 02, 2013, 2:50 AM UTC

minm wrote: post #261

ricardobeat wrote: post #220

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I did read that after seeing it in another thread. Thankfully HN is nothing like the financial world. I might enter a marketing forum with that mindset, but knowledge and recognition are the currencies here, not money, so the rules are a bit different.

I wish it were the case. But please analyse majority of the top posts in HN with an open mind. One can clearly see the connection SV --> Funding --> YC --> TC. The outsiders are treated or ignored like pariahs. Have you heard a term "Made in SV". It may be subtle. But it is there.

I think you really poorly started the discussion. You should have made it clear exactly why your product is better suited to handle the problem. If you said something like

"We've seen many companies leak or improperly use your email addresses and other personal informations. The best solution is to host your own. Check out _____"

That would have been a proper sequitur and wouldn't come off as arbitrary pumping.

Re: Why was my email leaked?

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Post by niggler » Sat, Mar 02, 2013, 3:01 AM UTC

jodrellblank wrote: post #259

niggler wrote: post #202

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tl;dr: read http://hastebin.com/raw/gefuxumubu "your affiliation is quite relevant. When you are talking about something when you have a clear conflict of interest, you need to disclose it. Then at least the reader has the right context in which to make a decision." I used to think the way you do. Then I entered the financial world. At this point, I've seen so many people talk up their positions without disclosing th…

Then something really strange happened: I stopped caring about the affiliations and really focused on the veracity of their statements. But it's not just how truthful the statement is, it also covers "why am I considering this statement at all?". And the answer "because someone I trust has had the same problem, considered the available options, and recommends X" is very different to "because someone who works for X s…

If you spent your entire life only listening to those that you "trust" and if you define trust in terms of those that agree with you, you end up in an intellectual bubble. It is incredibly important that you at least consider what people are saying.

Re: Why was my email leaked?

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Post by driverdan » Sat, Mar 02, 2013, 2:31 PM UTC

diminoten wrote: post #251

driverdan wrote: post #186

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I can guarantee you that none of my devices contain malware. Like I said, a trojan Android app could be a possibility but seems unlikely.

If you have the ability to guarantee that any device is malware free, you could make a lot of money in the security industry, as no one else in the world has such a power.

Who said that? I said my devices, not any device.

Re: Why was my email leaked?

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Post by diminoten » Sat, Mar 02, 2013, 10:31 PM UTC

driverdan wrote: post #264

diminoten wrote: post #251

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If you have the ability to guarantee that any device is malware free, you could make a lot of money in the security industry, as no one else in the world has such a power.

Who said that? I said my devices, not any device.

Still.