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Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Post by maxnevermind »

mchusma wrote: post #192

There was surprisingly little information on how they actually do this, but we run our business with a large number of, what we call "AI employees" in addition to regular employees, and they act in interesting ways. We've been building out orchestration tools to handle this, and we'll probably do a write-up or blog post on it soon. May even open source some of it. The preview is that the problem with most agents (and…

What type of roles "AI employees" play, can it be any position in your company or you limit it to something specific? What is your goal, are you trying to find out if fully autonomous bots are more efficiently help to deliver projects than when people drive them or is it something else?

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Post by sevenzero »

StilesCrisis wrote: post #251
mchusma wrote: post #192

There was surprisingly little information on how they actually do this, but we run our business with a large number of, what we call "AI employees" in addition to regular employees, and they act in interesting ways. We've been building out orchestration tools to handle this, and we'll probably do a write-up or blog post on it soon. May even open source some of it. The preview is that the problem with most agents (and…

Is this actually cost-effective versus hiring a few humans? Seems like a huge amount of tokens in use.

The whole premise of AI is to replace the human in the loop. People who go out of their way to set up this kind of stuff rather than just hiring a person dont even think about just hiring a person.

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Post by illirik »

n2d4 wrote: post #125
skyberrys wrote: post #114

I hope this goes better than the prior blog posts from AndonLabs have gone! I was just reading there 2023 article about a coffee shop experiment that was easily persuaded to give away free pastries. Now that I think about it anyone want to open up a croissant selling shop near me using Pion? I promise to only ask for free chocolate croissant occasionally.

Are you in San Francisco by any chance? Andon Market is managed by AI and open six days a week, you may want to check that out https://maps.app.goo.gl/KwnBs1kcCLxMsRC49

> six days a week

Why? Does the AI that runs it need a day off?

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Post by joshuat »

wartywhoa23 wrote: post #185
aschobel wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there seems to be a massive negativity to any comment on this story. Andolabs has been doing super interesting stuff, and I’ve always followed Vend Bench with interest. as a founder it really is a dream to automated more of the business and be able to iterate faster.

> it really is a dream to automated more of the business and be able to iterate faster Why iterate faster?

Why can't an agent do the iteration for us?

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Post by edawg88 »

trencedamp wrote: post #194
idopmstuff wrote: post #155

I am in the process of attempting to have AI run my business. I'm actually making very good progress, but it's happening in pieces - I document some task and have it take over, or I give it something to handle while staying in the loop and providing feedback until it's in good shape. At this point it's handling large swathes of my operations, marketing and finance. The experience of getting it there makes me pretty s…

> I am somewhat surprised to see some of the errors current models make given their intelligence They have no intelligence. These are very very very refined prediction engines. > A common set is having Claude take some product photos and turn them into lifestyle ones using ChatGPT via Claude in Chrome. It's a pretty well-honed workflow at this point, but it'll still return images where the product is obviously not co…

"Judgement" is the #1 thing missing from AI if you ask me.

You give AI an input, and then an output is created...a very coherent and deep output in fect...but, there is very little understanding of alternatives or downstream implications in my experience.

I think its a very good text/image generator on any subject. But I am not finding much in the way of understanding tradeoffs or downstream implications in a non-pro's and con's list. It's like a human that has a particular type of brain damage...they can make an infinite pro/con list, but not reasonable decision is reliably made.

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Post by bmau5 »

grvdrm wrote: post #250
mchusma wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our control panel is on a server but individual agents actually are run on anyone’s machine. This allows us to use the native harnesses including subscriptions. Yes it uses a lot more tokens, but i have have Claude $200, OpenAI $200, and SuperGrok Heavy $300 (or whatever it is called) that includes Cursor Ultra. My machine runs most of them, but some other team members have agents running on their machines using 1-2…

Do I understand correctly that by using your machine and Claude Code or something like it you are avoiding API pricing?

I do the same thing with my subscriptions. Haven't checked the math lately but it seemed more cost effective in the past.

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Post by owebmaster »

tantalor wrote: post #238
owebmaster wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really think AI can automate distribution, marketing, sales? That's just spam.

Do you really think it can't?

I'm sure it can't. A competent marketer can make good use of it but vibecoders just create slop nobody wants to read.

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Post by bmau5 »

idopmstuff wrote: post #155

I am in the process of attempting to have AI run my business. I'm actually making very good progress, but it's happening in pieces - I document some task and have it take over, or I give it something to handle while staying in the loop and providing feedback until it's in good shape. At this point it's handling large swathes of my operations, marketing and finance. The experience of getting it there makes me pretty s…

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