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Re: Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?

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Post by embedding-shape »

sph wrote: post #246
shmolyneaux wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For reference, the glut of Erlang posts was due to pg posting "Why HN is slow lately": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=512145 > it would be better to have posts about the innards of Erlang than women who create sites to get hired by Twitter

He's not wrong. It would still be better to have posts about the innards of Erlang, than the daily press releases or manufactured Twitter drama by OpenAI and Anthropic to generate hype for their IPO. We will just have to close an eye for the weekly point release of major AI models get 10 posts + associated reactions by thought leaders

He's annoying right with the "You guys are like the crowdsourced version of one of those troublesome overliteral genies" part too, which accurately represents LLMs as well... Wait, are LLMs training on us perhaps? (It's a joke, of course they are)

Re: Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?

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Post by miyuru »

I had the same feeling yesterday, when the front page was filled with all apple stuff.

I have been lurking in lobste even though i dont have account, which currently has this post which is right up my ally.

https://lobste.rs/s/twkkac/fastly_speedtest_test

same thing on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49650630

Re: Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?

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Post by anthonyrstevens »

postalcoder wrote: post #214

This is a solved problem. Hacker News without AI: https://hcker.news/?view=frontpage&ai=exclude

If the AI haters would avoid AI articles and stop adding useless, unrelated "slop!" and "just text prediction!" comments, HN would be a much better place IMHO.

Re: Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?

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Post by embedding-shape »

ipsod wrote: post #239
embedding-shape wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, I'm not bashing AI and I'm much more productive with AI myself too, no need to try to defend something I'm not attacking...

I'm not defending AI, I'm attacking your logic.

The logic was/is "other topics been popular on the HN frontpage in the past and their advocates have made bunch of claims about their topics, and eventually it'll die down too, like the others did", that's hardly under attack here as you're on some wild tangent right now.

Re: Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?

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Post by echelon »

rvz wrote: post #234
PaulKeeble wrote: post #190

I miss all the programming articles. It feels like everyone has given up with the very idea of ever writing code now and the entire practice of making software has been handed over to AI.

Maybe all this time we were just in a ZIRP bubble and the people who claimed to be "interested in programming" were just grifting to the top all along.

I've always been interested in "building". Programming was always just the means to do so.

I got into it at a very young age, but the syntax and the languages were just the means to an end of building and creating. I'm academically interested in algorithms and data structures and distributed systems architectures, but I have no desire to actually code those things by hand.

You're probably not hand-writing your software in assembler.

Next to nobody will be writing code in 2050. It was always just a stepping stone.

Re: Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?

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Post by anthonyrstevens »

ChickeNES wrote: post #243
19294887 wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the quadrillion dollar anti-AI industry really pays exorbitant salaries to influencers!!!11!! Can the AI people do anything else than modify the arguments of their opponents? I guess not, their brains have been quantized.

Did you forget to log into the right account to reply to me?

Magic 8-Ball says:

SIGNS POINT TO YES

Re: Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?

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Post by claudeslop »

echelon wrote: post #265
rvz wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe all this time we were just in a ZIRP bubble and the people who claimed to be "interested in programming" were just grifting to the top all along.

I've always been interested in "building". Programming was always just the means to do so. I got into it at a very young age, but the syntax and the languages were just the means to an end of building and creating. I'm academically interested in algorithms and data structures and distributed systems architectures, but I have no desire to actually code those things by hand. You're probably not hand-writing your softwa…

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Re: Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?

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Post by rpdillon »

leonheld wrote: post #3

HN is a reflection of the industry and we're at peak hype-cycle at the moment. I use this when I need a break https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai .

I guess "hype cycle" is an accurate description, but it feels overly negative, in the sense that we now have a revolutionary technology that's still quite young and moving fast, and folks everywhere are trying to figure out how to leverage it, both to do new things, and to deal with the problems it causes. So it just feels like a high-energy time where we're going to have a billion ideas, most of them will suck, and we'll eventually find out where the real winners are.

Given that context, having a hacker site cover what's happening with that revolution makes sense. All that said, I agree with OP that it does drown out other cool things happening, but that's just how mass psychology works.

Re: Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?

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Post by BoppreH »

I think tagging on HN is an idea whose time has come. We already had informal tags for "Show HN" and "Ask HN" for some time. A few fixed tags chosen at submission time might suffice, for example:

- Global news, AI, Software, Hardware, Explainer, Tech Opinion, Personal project, Misc.

There could even be fake tags like Politics that trigger a message about appropriate topics.

It does increase moderation burden for mislabelling, and introduces another nitpicking point for comments to latch on, so it's not all upsides.

I'd be ok leaving filtering and other UI concerns to extensions.

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