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Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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I hope Google waits a few months and then rolls out a premium-purchase maps feature. Then, when Apple demands their 30% and Google refuses, Apple has to pull the app again and frustrate all their users again. Not saying that's what will happen, but I can dream.

Why would you want that?

for lulz

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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'Apple has in the past been known to make things with the ultimate attention to detail and things that "just work"' I don't know why people continue to believe this. Apple has released versions of the Finder with amateurish bugs that delete files[1] and versions of Mail that randomly delete messages[2]. Several versions of Mail on iPhone send hundreds of copies of a message when emailing a link from Safari[3]. The Ma…

ref 1 dates back to 2007, ref 2 is an isolated 'bug report' which no one else seems to corroborate and ref 3 seems to be written by you. You're not making any kind of case here for Apple being overrated.

"ref 1 dates back to 2007"

And?

"ref 2 is an isolated 'bug report' which no one else seems to corroborate"

It's one link to a report of a well-known, real problem. Apple Mail botched IMAP semantics just as the Finder botched file copying semantics. Both problems are reliably absent from real, mature software. And even in the one link I provide, several users are reporting disappearing messages. I would call that "corroborated", wouldn't you?

"ref 3 seems to be written by you"

It was, so you can be sure it's true.

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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Curiously, I wonder what they do then because they definitely have the vector data in the backend. Google Maps for Android has been vector based for 1.5 to 2 years now.

I'm using google maps for android. When I zoom in, I can clearly see the pixelation of the tiles before the new tiles load. The google play store doesn't show any updates for the app. Where are you getting your information? Here's a screenshot I took after I enabled airplane mode: http://i.imgur.com/wc5Ie.png

But we're talking about the new Google Maps app for iOS, which is not the same as Google Maps for Android (its a newer ground-up design with different features.)

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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Well, people on this site don't seem to mind rehashing how great Apple is, ad infinitum. So no, I don't see a problem with rehashing this a few times.

Really? I submitted a story earlier about state police in Australia saying that Google maps are dangerous and it's been completely ignored. Ok, maybe it was a repeat of a story that had been previously submitted, but since not a sniff of the story has appeared, I'd suggest that the pro-Google/anti-Apple sentiment is far more pervasive here. I'd think were the opposite true, we'd have seen much more of this story.

I searched HN for this story and was surprised to not find it, so I submitted it myself. It was dead within an hour.

And really, thinking about it now, it probably deserved to die, just as the Apple story probably deserved to die. The only real lesson from these stories is that you can't blindly follow your GPS… and everyone should've already known that. But all that did get hashed out in the Apple thread and really doesn't need a rehash so soon after the first story.

So… is the missing story the result of pro-Google/anti-Apple bias? It certainly could be, but I can't say that's the only plausible explanation.

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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still does. Try searching for something relevant, see where an app with that exact name is placed. Example: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=child+books&c=apps The app named "Child Books" comes after coloring book, Nook, WebMD and many others. It's just that popularity matters MUCH much more than what you actually search for, and it takes days from the moment of getting popular (Google Maps style) to the moment…

A better way to search for an app called "child books" would be to use quotes around it.[1] But I agree, Google Play's search can still be improved. Currently a search for GTA vice city [2] places the actual game in third place behind other related apps. These apps are The important thing to note is that both these apps have 100,000+ downloads while the game is [1]: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=%22child+boo…

> Currently a search for GTA vice city [2] places the actual game in third place behind other related apps.

Looks like that's already changed in the last 3 hours. Now shows up in first place for me.

Third place is currently some ripoff scam app, which is another problem. (Is there any way to report clear ripoff/spam apps from the web storefront? Had to into Google Play to report "objectionable content", which was the closest I could find to a fraud report.)

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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Apple Maps: Better Product Design Google Maps: Better Data I'm especially missing dropping pins to share location and search bar tucked up at the top in Google Maps, but Apple's lack of integrated transit directions and putting me in random locations is a no go for city life. Sigh...

Can you not share location? Or do you just miss the graphical touch of dropping pins?

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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It may be a win in a similar way that the Chrome browser was a win. Google kicked browser competition into high gear in terms of performance and ACID compliance when they launched Chrome. Apple Maps may have had a similar effect. I hate to use "killer app" but a great GPS makes the phone a more valuable device. I still have a standalone GPS in the car which we will definitely not need once we all upgrade to phones wi…

[Did] Google [have] the ability pre-iOS 6 to do turn-by-turn? The original Maps app was written by Apple and consumed data licensed from (and presumably hosted by?) Google. Apple wanted turn-by-turn on iOS, but the data required was not part of their original deal with Google. Google was willing to license it, provided that Apple give Google additional data: presumably anonymized data about where users were for Googl…

Wow, I had forgotten in all of this that the original app was written by Apple. So going back to the original comment of being a "win for Apple"- this does seem to have been an end-around past the licensing issue, but not much of a "win" for Apple. Google gets kicked out of the default app and launches a third-part app in probably the best possible way for them though.

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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Apple did not put beta on its app, and it eventually apologised and also fired a VP who was not willing to sign the apology . google launches a map with beta warning and everybody going gaga on it, yeah their data set is better. "Google Maps Navigation is in beta. Use caution. Please keep your eyes on the road and obey applicable laws. Do not manipulate this application while in motion. Directions may be inaccurate,…

Apple had a disclaimer the first time you launched Apple Maps.

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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Sort of off-topic and I've harped on this before, but when I search "google maps" in the app store, it's the fifth search result! As a developer in the App Store, I really hope they do something to fix the abysmal searches in it.

I remember when Android's market had a similarly terrible search for years, which I thought was funnier considering it was Google and all (although I think their usual algorithms don't work nearly as well for apps that don't really have natural links).

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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I guess I'm still stuck in the same mentality that I'm surprised at but I'm always surprised to see what gets iOS users excited these days or what problems it has: fundamental search issues the AppStore, the amazement of Google Maps being "fluid" (ironic given the tech powering it [based on koush's speculation]), lusting for the simplicity of the Google theme versus the plasticy-clear-bubbled iOS. Then again I'm also…

> I just don't get it when I read these threads.

That's because a complaint thread about an OS is about the last place to go for an objective look at an OS.

> or just the constant implications that Android is still sub-par to iOS.

It's because a mapping issue and some app store searching problems, (after the entire App Store team rolled over I might add) and a couple of unfavourable design cues don't make an OS.

The implication is still there because many who use iOS do feel they have a superior product. I work at a help desk and there is nothing I love more than setting up an iOS device on our network. Email? No problem? Wi-Fi, it's probably already working! I boast a 100% success rate with iOS devices.

Now I get an Android device. If I'm lucky, it's high end and running ICS so it will be at least as responsive as an iPhone 4 or laggy 4S. Now I get to discover all the fun quirks with this phone.

Oh it doesn't have that field, guess it's called something else here. Yeah I don't know why it's asking you to specify each layer of network security on the WiFi when iOS can do it every time without asking. I'm not sure why they use so much technical language when configuring e-mail. No, I don't know why your brand new Nexus 7 won't connect to WiFi or Email even when utilizing one of the many hacky workarounds.

And then there are the no-name tablets. Honestly, fuck Google and their lack of licensing for AOSP for flooding the market with these pieces of shit. I would rather troubleshoot 20 netbooks from cold boot than wait 10 full seconds for the thing to auto-rotate back to normal, wait another 5 for it to become responsive, oh it crashed! Oh well.

People still say it because it's still true. Not as drastically noticeable as in the 2.x days, but Google isn't going to suddenly eliminate the lag that comes with running what is essentially a Java VM. It's still there, it's pervasive, and it affect everything about the phone, from usability, to touch response, to accuracy and reliability.

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