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Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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Post by honeycrispy »

ifwinterco wrote: post #157
throwaway836123 wrote: post #93

As someone who has lived most of his life in Iran, I ask those who find any alignment with the IRGC to please understand that it is a religiously fanatic military and terrorist group. They are behind many atrocities in Iran and in the region including the situation in Gaza (partially). They also provided weaponry and support to Russia against Ukraine.

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> The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews. Sahih Muslim 2922

When they're surrounded on every side by people who devote their lives to Hadith such as these, I can't blame them. Their enemies set up bases under hospitals, schools. Their wives and children are human shields. I think they're doing pretty well with the situation they've been handed. The situation is more complex than "They're firing on civilian populations", because their enemy fights in civilian clothing, and hides in civilian crowds. They're stuck between a rock and a hard place and are doing what they can to survive.

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Post by adrr »

frollogaston wrote: post #138
throwaway836123 wrote: post #93

As someone who has lived most of his life in Iran, I ask those who find any alignment with the IRGC to please understand that it is a religiously fanatic military and terrorist group. They are behind many atrocities in Iran and in the region including the situation in Gaza (partially). They also provided weaponry and support to Russia against Ukraine.

I don't care about Iran's leadership and think this shouldn't be the US's war to fight. Also, we aren't even trying to replace their government, we're just attacking per Israel's wishes. There must be a lot of Americans who agree.

Israel's leader is wanted by the international court for genocide. And lets not forget how Iran's current government took power? US installed a dictator in Iran because UK was angry that Iran nationalized the UK owned oil fields. This led to a coup, which resulted in the current Iranian government.

There's no good guys. Why is the US even there?

Edit: downvoted to -3. Did i say anything that was untrue? Or do people not like the truth?

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Post by rbanffy »

dmix wrote: post #90
dundarious wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Radars and bases along the path of travel from Iran to Israel have been progressively degraded. Various interceptor types also have low stockpiles at present. I'm absolutely not an expert keeping well-informed, but my understanding is that Jordan's recent losses mean much of the path is now relatively clear of air defenses, and Israel would have to mount most/all defenses from their own territory for the first time.…

Iran also isn't hitting Israel because they know Israel will go after Tehran and the regime more directly. They were the ones to target the Basij police, industrial and steel plants, government buildings etc. America is mostly constraining itself to bombing the coast and military assets, with a focus on the strait. That plus most of Iran's attacks on Israel didn't do anything and likely still won't. Which is why Iran…

> Which is why Iran focused on the weaker gulf states even when Israel was involved.

Also, Israel will not abandon (or be abandoned) by the US, but the others might want to cut their losses if supporting the US becomes costlier than being neutral.

The game being played is extremely interesting, with high stakes and no margin for error. Too bad people die.

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Post by jmyeet »

squidbeak wrote: post #160
Macha wrote: post #86

Between this and the Wildberries depot strikes in the Ukraine war, I think it really highlights how much peace was required to make the centralisation we've experienced work.

The Gulf States aren't at war with Iran. In Wildberries case (and Ozon's shortly), that centralization didn't require much peace at all - just a government that wasn't run by a fascist nutter who naively thought he could invade a neighbor without consequences.

They aren't neutral either. They're hosting military bases and miilitary assets that are being used to attack them. They are allowing their airspace to be used. Same with their waters and ports.

Which is to say that all the military assets in Gulf countries, including this Amazon DC, are valid military targets.

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Post by culi »

Neil44 wrote: post #21
decimalenough wrote: post #14

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The entire houseofsaud.com site appears to be LLM-generated, I wouldn't trust a single thing it says.

Used for translation maybe? I tried to scan to see which plugins, but it had two responses for me, and the second one was 'off'

Definitely more than translation. This page has every AI UI trope under the sun. The titles on the main page also all seem very AI-speak

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Post by strictnein »

pphysch wrote: post #220
drnick1 wrote: post #145

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> Who, if anyone, is Iran allowed to retaliate against? The answer here is surrender and disarmament. It's the only outcome that seems compatible with the reintegration of Iran into the world economy, normalization of diplomatic relationships with neighboring countries, and path to development/prosperity for its people.

Iran will never surrender because US/Israel proved themselves unequivocally to be brutal savages that will torture, rape and kill you if you surrender. There is literally no point in surrendering to a barbarian horde.

Yes, Israel and the US are the "barbarian" horde.

Definitely not the country that slaughters protestors by the thousands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025%E2%80%932026_Iran_massacr...

There's so many people here who have clearly lost their ability to think clearly any time Israel is involved. I'm sure it's just coincidence though and nothing else is going on.

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Post by strictnein »

nickpinkston wrote: post #88
reliabilityguy wrote: post #72

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What do the Americans get for their relatives murdered by IRGC throughout the years?

Let's do it fairly. Like 100s (?) of Americans killed by Iran ever. Compare to Iranians: Affected by the aftermath of the American coup of Mosaddegh (ultimately leading to IRGC's existence), providing weapons to Iraq for the Iran-Iraq War (200K deaths), etc. + decades of stupid policy trying to take their oil in the name of "regional security" (for "our" oil).

~250 alone on one day in 1983. 300-400 total from their terrorist networks. Thousands of casualties (wounded and killed) in Iraq that are directly attributed to Iran.

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Post by culi »

danielbenzvi1 wrote: post #183
CommanderData wrote: post #133

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Israel is not an ethno state. About 21% of citizens are Arab. They vote, sit in the Knesset, have served on the Supreme Court, and hold full formal civil rights. There are also other factually wrong things in your comment, but let's leave it at that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah

Cash payments, rental subsidies, mortgage discounts, free healthcare, free tuition, tax credits, tax exemptions, job placement, immediate citizenship, etc. All if you're of a certain ethnicity.

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Post by woodruffw »

EtienneDeLyon wrote: post #233
bitcurious wrote: post #198

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The Iranian regime killed in a matter of days approximately the same amount of civilians as the IDF killed in Gaza over the course of their entire operation. That’s just the tally from this year, they are also responsible for hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths across Syria, Yemen, Iraq, and Ukraine.

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> When the Einsatzgruppen were "cleansing" conquered territory they at least had the decency to do so as humanely as possible.

What a grossly offensive and patently false thing to say[1].

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar

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