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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by bdavbdav »

grumbelbart2 wrote: post #260
_factor wrote: post #241

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That’s just a line. More like, “We can collect our own data”, or “We can lock them in and collect subscription fees.”

Mostly the second point. They already collect and track you, even with car play. I strongly recommend this CCC talk, where they hacked a Volkswagen database that contained unfiltered, high-accuracy, timestamped locations of a large majority of electric cars from VW group. Based on that they were, for example, able to identify cars owned by members of Germany's security apparatus: where they work, where they live, whe…

The frustrating thing is I bet they’re still tracking and collecting this when you stop paying for the tracking / telematics.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by bux93 »

doug_durham wrote: post #125
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #119

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I would prefer knobs and buttons over a screen flow in either direction, but no modern car caters to this anymore.

My Hyundai Ioniq 5 has Car Play and knobs and buttons. It's not either or.

That's in fact one of the pros of carplay/android auto as opposed to just putting your phone in one of those windscreen attached holders; you get to use the volume buttons on the steering wheel. Annoyingly my car doesn't have play/pause buttons on there, but if it had, they would work.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by izacus »

rjrjrjrj wrote: post #134
faitswulff wrote: post #104

Surprised no one's mentioned it so far, but CarPlay / Android Auto aren't just features, they're consistency . Across makes, models, years. I know what I'm getting when I connect my phone - and if anyone uses my car with their own device, they get their own dashboard, as well. One interesting use case I saw was a couple where one used a left-to-right interface and the other a right-to-left UI. CarPlay makes this easy…

Agreed. Extremely important on rental cars.

Yeah, this!

Getting all my information - calendar, maps history, music, contacts, etc. on a rental car without syncing that info to it is absolutely great.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by izacus »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #119
faitswulff wrote: post #104

Surprised no one's mentioned it so far, but CarPlay / Android Auto aren't just features, they're consistency . Across makes, models, years. I know what I'm getting when I connect my phone - and if anyone uses my car with their own device, they get their own dashboard, as well. One interesting use case I saw was a couple where one used a left-to-right interface and the other a right-to-left UI. CarPlay makes this easy…

I would prefer knobs and buttons over a screen flow in either direction, but no modern car caters to this anymore.

My Mazda controls Auto/CarPlay with a physical controller so it's not either/or.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by izacus »

gf000 wrote: post #228
aetch wrote: post #142

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Mazda has knobs and buttons that can even control carplay

I believe even they dropped it in the latest cars, unfortunately

Yeah, the latest CX-5 and 6e went all in Tesla screen derangement and folks don't love it.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by izacus »

cmovq wrote: post #258
namdnay wrote: post #251

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> having to look down at the center of my dashboard that's why more recent models move the screen higher up. it sometimes looks a bit silly (like they glued an ipad on top of the dashboard), but it's a lot more usable > HUD that projected my location, speed, heading and turn by turn navigation (with lane info!) onto the windshield the latest carplay implementations are compatible with the inbuilt navigation aids, so…

I wish everyone would just have an option to see the navigation the the gauge cluster.

That's a very common feature nowadays, isn't it? For a rather new models.

E.g. Peugeot 4008 I was driving a few months ago could show CarPlay/Auto maps on main gauge cluster.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by yoavm »

ipdashc wrote: post #223
IgorPartola wrote: post #217

I am clearly in the minority here but I have driven cars with and without CarPlay and honestly do not care whether a car has it. I use my phone for navigation and mount it such that when I look at it I am not taking my eyes off the road. I find this to be far better than having to look down at the center of my dashboard but CarPlay navigation UI via Google Maps or Waze also works fine so it’s not a huge difference. R…

> I am clearly in the minority here but I have driven cars with and without CarPlay and honestly do not care whether a car has it. I'm in the same boat, though with Android Auto or whatever. I'm honestly surprised how many people seem to need CarPlay; a comment or two down there's a stat claiming 79% of buyers wouldn't buy a car without it. Is it that different from the Android implementation? Is there something spec…

I use Android and having Android Auto is absolutely a must have for me.

AUX cord? It's been a few years since I've seen a phone with a headphone jack, or a car with an AUX input. I also don't miss the time where my phone had to be connected on one side to USB for charging, on the other side to the sounds system, and my navigation was done using a a 6" screen that kept falling between the chairs. Android Auto/CarPlay let's you connect one thing (or not at all), have your phone charged, your navigation clear, and your music playing smoothly and controlled with the physical car knobs.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by christoph »

doug_durham wrote: post #125
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would prefer knobs and buttons over a screen flow in either direction, but no modern car caters to this anymore.

My Hyundai Ioniq 5 has Car Play and knobs and buttons. It's not either or.

Our BMW i3 also has CarPlay and it’s all knobs and buttons for interaction!

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by izacus »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #75
throwaway_7274 wrote: post #41

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I literally will not buy a car that has a microprocessor in it (I will, apparently, never buy a car)

TPMS (tire pressure monitoring system) is a coin battery powered computer inside each tyre of your car. They’ve been around for a couple of decades now. Even the lowest end cars have TPMS in each wheel. If you change wheels you need to go to a wheel shop and have them re pair (as in re pair wifi) the wheel with your car. I had to do this recently with my 2014 ford focus. Anyway those are just four of hundreds of comp…

Some cars use ABS speed sensors instead of that which is usually a bit less accurate, but also less of a hassle.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by yuye »

izacus wrote: post #264
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #119

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I would prefer knobs and buttons over a screen flow in either direction, but no modern car caters to this anymore.

My Mazda controls Auto/CarPlay with a physical controller so it's not either/or.

Last time I got a rental car, it was a Mazda 3. I really enjoy how the dial works.
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