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Surveillance is not safety: A statement on the UK's latest threat to privacy [pdf]

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Don't forget all the pedos working for government to watch all the reported images.

Characterising people who analyse reprehensible material in order to try to save children from abuse as “pedos working for government to watch all the reported images” is, quite frankly, disgusting.

Reminds me of every single Chris Hansen victim who claims they heard a child was in danger and came to save her.

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That only shows the domain eg facebook.com, not facebook.com/tracking-script. There's no reason that they can't put all the bad stuff on the same essential, first-party domain needed for the app which makes DNS blocking and viewing not effective. That's why you can't block youtube ads with DNS, only with a browser-level adblocker because the browser adblocker is able to block the specific paths. You can view the full…

Good to know - I hadn't considered the proxy bit. For me, right now, I think it's conceivably a security advantage if the source isn't public. I know security by obscurity isn't a strategy alone, but with an incredibly difficult surface area to attack, I think user's using the app are very well protected, except for against nation states.

Bad guys have no problem decompiling your software with Ghidra-MCP.

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There is definitely a common type of computer security enthusiast for whom the need for security is absolute and costs don't even enter the equation.

The difference is who controls it. If you want to set up secure boot with your own keys, good on you, go for it.

That's exactly the shortsighted view I'm talking about - you are ignoring the cost of building/adopting a system that you may not control in the future.

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This is a country that has arrested people for social media posts. It’s also a crime in the UK to offend someone. Orwell identified the genetic defect in the British genome 80 years ago.

What were the posts?

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We'll see. I can't be the only voter fed up with how Labour are handling this. I find they way that Peter Kyle and Jess Philips have dismissed privacy concerns about online surveillance particularly condescending. Come the next general election they are going to be paid back for this. (Oh, and I appreciate Signal speaking up and have just donated to them again for doing so).

The idea is that people who have politics like yours can be “visited” by the police and asked to “voluntarily” come down to the station for an interview about “hateful rhetoric” on social media. Doesn’t matter how you vote if actual political opposition is outlawed, which is where the UK is heading rapidly aided by digital surveillance.

Anyone can be visited by anyone and asked anything. Isn't that part of freedom?

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There's no such thing as private or anonymous age verification. It doesn't exist.

zero knowledge proofs exist, don't they? also it matters "private from whom, and what". You can make what sites you visit private from the government, and your identity a secret from the site, but the inverse isn't true, the government would know the identity, and the site would obviously know someone visited it. The problem with this whole thing is the expectation of privacy online for interactions where their IRL e…

ZKP age verification doesn't verify because you can just copy someone else's token.

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Oh, the people who work on secure boot, attestation, DRM, and other such features know very well, but don't care. This is because the claimed benefits for them, such as less hackers, less malware, less bot traffic, outweigh any possible downsides for the society.

There is definitely a common type of computer security enthusiast for whom the need for security is absolute and costs don't even enter the equation.

Ironically, Signal folks have shown those leanings a lot when they forbade people from backing up their messages.

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People forget how we got here. Whatever your philosophical stance, history has shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that giving most people complete control over their device has been an unmitigiated disaster. Scams, stealing credentials, stealing money, botnets, viruses, losses of data, ransomware, etc etc etc. What is better for most people is a locked down device like an iPad where each app has to be approved and they…

People often misuse freedom. The answer to that is not to take freedom away, but to educate people on how to use their freedom, and only restrict those who have proven to be unable to handle it. Let's say your argument, that clueless users getting infected are an externality upon everyone else and thus they need to be locked down for everyone's good, is accurate (though I don't think it is). In that case, why should…

'Misusing freedom' is a funny concept.

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I recently talked to a brit who expressed their fear of... knives. It blew my mind. The UK has one of the lowest murder rates in the world, 5 times less than the US, but they're so incredibly afraid. They are just plain embracing a culture of paranoia, cowardice and extreme surveillance. I wouldn't care because I don't live there except the dystopian tech and business models they're developing ends up crossing the se…

Because in the UK people believe, media enhances this, they can get stabbed for little to no reason or over a small argument due to mostly due to social tensions but also poverty. In the US it seems you have a high chance of not getting stabbed/shot if you don't agitate. So I think the paranoia about knives does not correlate with the likely hood of getting stabbed but with the unpredictability of it. I agree that th…

Did you see the news from Belfast today?

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We all also know they know they will be absolutely ravaged in the next GE, at the scale of the Tories. The question - why hand that to Farage and his far right? Is Keir Starmer a far right operative in Labour? His track revord would suggest so, but do we have any receipts?

Incompetence. I don’t remember when there was last a competent PM or government - not in my lifetime, certainly, and I am no spring chicken.

I don't think so, I kind of wish but he was a skilled human rights lawyer, the head of CPS, an utter moron wouldn't be able to achieve this much, he's not a lettuce.

I'm afraid it's a malicious intent here, and I also wish I could see a competent government, but until one takes on FPTP and media dictating the policy, nothing changes.

The hope is in the angry youngsters, maybe they could vote Greens+LibDems in.

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