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EU-banned pesticides found in rice, tea and spices

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Re: EU-banned pesticides found in rice, tea and spices

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Post by dd8601fn »

Saline9515 wrote: post #33
darth_avocado wrote: post #30

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Organic is just green washing, it doesn’t mean no chemicals. Plenty of organic products contain toxic chemicals and heavy metals. Organic oats have been found to contain glyphosate. Organic spices have been found to contain heavy metals.

Organic means that no non-organic pesticides have been used in production. There are still organic ones available, which are less dangerous. Especially to the farmers who are the first ones to get exposed to the poisons we spread on the fields.

> There are still organic ones available, which are less dangerous.

You’re gunna want to look at the later half of that.

Re: EU-banned pesticides found in rice, tea and spices

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Post by forlorn_mammoth »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #243
CalRobert wrote: post #151

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Maybe I'm a Calvinist. I'm definitely happier in the Netherlands. My general experience was that Irish laws existed mostly for show and if you followed them you were a chump. Unless you wanted to smoke a joint now and then, of course. Ireland supposedly cares about nature too, but you can still buy truckloads of turf off the side of the road in Offaly. Good luck getting those rules enforced. When we still lived in Du…

> I think when you're threatening your neighbours and letting dangerous dogs loose on other people's land where there's kids or sheep then authoritarianism is called for. You jumped straight to authoritarianism? How about trying self-defense? Boy you really are a Calvinist

The guy who carries a pistol and shoots the neighbor's dogs in self defense, I would expect that guy to face some social consequences and he'd be lucky if it was just the police.

Hobbes. we create the Leviathan so we don't have to constantly act in self defense. The alternative was cold, brutish, and short.

Re: EU-banned pesticides found in rice, tea and spices

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Post by WhereIsTheTruth »

psychoslave wrote: post #256
WhereIsTheTruth wrote: post #24

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+1 The downvotes aren't surprising, people who have spent enough time on this orange site tend to lose the plot

What's an orange site?

The one you are currently browsing

Re: EU-banned pesticides found in rice, tea and spices

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Post by jamespo »

cultofmetatron wrote: post #259
jamespo wrote: post #251

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it appears you've misunderstood what criticizing the government is, nice try though

there was a recent case of a kid who was literally stabbed by a sihk guy and got arrested because the sihk guy said the guy said something racist. Now before you say that I need to check my white privilege, I am brown. everytime one of these people commit these crimes and the police look the other way in the name of political correctness, it gives legitimacy to the racists who want to cast all of us in a bad light. L…

Yes, that wasn’t criticising the government either.

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Post by [deleted] »

xandrius wrote: post #154
fsflover wrote: post #150

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Don't organic foods use natural pesticides?

Yep but that's just always been the case: it's a world of difference between spraying the latest Monsanto v7 KillEmAll upgraded formula or supporting biodiversity such that for every major pest there is also something which eats it and gets rid of it.

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Re: EU-banned pesticides found in rice, tea and spices

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Post by cultofmetatron »

jamespo wrote: post #264
cultofmetatron wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there was a recent case of a kid who was literally stabbed by a sihk guy and got arrested because the sihk guy said the guy said something racist. Now before you say that I need to check my white privilege, I am brown. everytime one of these people commit these crimes and the police look the other way in the name of political correctness, it gives legitimacy to the racists who want to cast all of us in a bad light. L…

Yes, that wasn’t criticising the government either.

you don't think criticizing asymmetry in policing isn't criticizing government?

Re: EU-banned pesticides found in rice, tea and spices

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Post by forlorn_mammoth »

colechristensen wrote: post #93

Just a note that the majority of these detections report the lowest amount chemistry can reliably quantify. Not the danger level, the known biological effect level, the smallest amount where chemistry can say they're statically confident the substance is present in a known amount. Modern gas chromatography is ridiculously sensitive.

> that 14 out of 64 samples had levels above the legally allowed limit (MRL), of which 12 pesticides that are not approved in the EU (page 12 of report).

Re: EU-banned pesticides found in rice, tea and spices

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Post by malfist »

psychoslave wrote: post #134
rplnt wrote: post #125

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Couldn't it also be case where the pesticides are fine to use on potatoes but not on tomatoes, for example?

No, pesticide are volatile and can poison water deep in earth no matter which thing was the initial target.

That's not really true. Most pesticides have a PHI (pre-harvest interval) where they will be broken down by microbs or sunlight before harvest. There's also pesticides that are more stable and thus can't be used on plants meant for human consumption, but even then most of those do not last very long in the soil. Microbes are very efficient at breaking down chemicals.

And then, after all of that, you still have: the solution to pollution is dilution.

What's toxic on a fruit tree for human consumption, is likely not toxic on thousands of cubic yards of dirt or millions of gallons of ground water.

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Post by dyauspitr »

enlyth wrote: post #79
Etheryte wrote: post #56

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Cumin always shows up on these lists, whether it's with heavy metals or something else. It's to the point where I've more or less just stopped cooking with it because I don't trust it to be safe.

I probably have a weird gene or something but cumin smells like disgusting body odour to me and any food that has any trace of it I cannot eat or I will gag This doesn't happen to me with anything else, I'm not a picky eater and will happily eat literally anything else

There is a hint of that it’s not just you but you get used to it and don’t notice it anymore. It’s kind of how most cheese has a persistent vomit smell.

Re: EU-banned pesticides found in rice, tea and spices

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Post by dyauspitr »

maurotdo wrote: post #143

This boomerang is the effect of another boomerang: nothing grows anymore without pesticides. I can see that in my crops and fruits: when I was young I could benefit from the produce my dad grew naturally. 30 years later nothing grows naturally anymore, blight, insects and diseases kill everything in a few days. We gave up, as it makes no sense to actively poison our produce when the poison comes with no hassle from b…

You’re not wrong. Where I am you need to cover everything with a net to even give it a chance at getting to the ripe stage otherwise 80% of it is somehow damaged by insects and disease. I’ve only been growing things for a few years but I just assumed that’s how growing things naturally always was. Is that genuinely not true?
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