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Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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Post by bel8 »

ignoramous wrote: post #238
bel8 wrote: post #225

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Unfortunately there's no defending Haiku 4.5 at this point when cheaper and better options are available. TLDR: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models?models=gemini-3-5-flash... and: https://i.imgur.com/nTu3VCZ.png For starters I did experiment a heck lot with models since Github Copilot gave me access to OpenAI, Gemini and Anthropic models. So I probably experimented more than the average LLMer. When GitHub Copilot ha…

> DeepSeek Flash on high setting In your experience, is max worse or you suggest it for less token use? > MiMo 2.5 Pro on the same OpenCode Go Xiaomi dropped dropped MiMo 2.5 rates by 70%+ [0] & now it is cost competitive with DeepSeek v4 Pro. I haven't used MiMo, but since you have, do you find it to be better than DeepSeek v4? If so, for what tasks? How do you decide when to use which, if you have an intuition for…

> In your experience, is max worse or you suggest it for less token use?

Yes. DS4 Flash max is incredibly chatty for minimal gain over DS4 high.

I asked the same question a month ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47978820 and confirmed in my tests.

> ...MiMo, but since you have, do you find it to be better than DeepSeek v4?

I didn't test MiMo 2.5 enough to form a veridict but from initial tests it is equivalent to DS4. But MiMo 2.5 (non Pro) has the advantage of having vision capability and MiMo is priced equaly as DeepSeek v4 in the $10/mo OpenCode Go now, after the discount you mentioned, see the yellow bars at https://opencode.ai/go

I'll start testing MiMo seriously next week.

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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Post by ChicagoDave »

I’m not sure the message should be benchmarking.

The eye-opener is clean licensed data with filters for AI content (not sure how you do that).

If MSFT builds up using an ethical approach, there is a large anti-AI audience that might take note.

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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Post by SyneRyder »

SwellJoe wrote: post #158
bel8 wrote: post #82

It's a start and I welcome competition but I don't think I ever used small cloud models like Haiku 4.5. They are cute but for serious coding they tend to waste your expensive time. And this certainly wont bring me back to GitHub Copilot which I cancelled yesterday. GitHub Copilot had competitive pricing until yesterday when they changed from per-request to one of the most expensive per-token quotas. Seriously, take a…

I've been doing benchmarking of various models for finding hard security bugs, and my faith in Haiku (and Sonnet, even) has dropped precipitously in the process. Self-hosted Qwen 3.6 27B consistently outperforms both for finding security bugs, which was a shocking result. I expected Qwen to be around Haiku level, maybe a little worse, and I definitely expected it to be worse than Sonnet. And, DeepSeek and MiMo perfor…

I don't suppose you've had a chance to benchmark MiniMax V3 yet? I've only just started testing other models after being an Anthropic fan. I haven't put MiniMax V3 to coding tasks yet, but something about my early simple tests has impressed me. The MiniMax API pricing is about 7% of Anthropic API prices (about matching Anthropic's subscription pricing).

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #256
Krysoph wrote: post #252

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> Text after a blank line that is indented by two or more spaces is formatted as code. https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc crimes ↑ │ 10.0 ┤ ● Airport burger │ ╭──────────────╮ 8.0 ┤ │ theft arc │ │ ╰──────────────╯ 6.0 ┤ ● Five Guys │ 4.0 ┤ ● Food truck burger │ 2.0 ┤ ● McBurger │ 0.0 ┤ ● Homemade burger │ └───────┬─────────┬─────────┬─────────┬─────────→ price $2 $8 $14 $22 $38 ┌────────────────────┬────────┬───…

Thanks, so in this case the value of "code fomatting" is using a fixed-width font ? The next question is where did the "ASCII-art" graph and table come from? Are there sites to generate these?

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Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #256
Krysoph wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Text after a blank line that is indented by two or more spaces is formatted as code. https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc crimes ↑ │ 10.0 ┤ ● Airport burger │ ╭──────────────╮ 8.0 ┤ │ theft arc │ │ ╰──────────────╯ 6.0 ┤ ● Five Guys │ 4.0 ┤ ● Food truck burger │ 2.0 ┤ ● McBurger │ 0.0 ┤ ● Homemade burger │ └───────┬─────────┬─────────┬─────────┬─────────→ price $2 $8 $14 $22 $38 ┌────────────────────┬────────┬───…

Thanks, so in this case the value of "code fomatting" is using a fixed-width font ? The next question is where did the "ASCII-art" graph and table come from? Are there sites to generate these?

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Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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Post by Krysoph »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #256
Krysoph wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Text after a blank line that is indented by two or more spaces is formatted as code. https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc crimes ↑ │ 10.0 ┤ ● Airport burger │ ╭──────────────╮ 8.0 ┤ │ theft arc │ │ ╰──────────────╯ 6.0 ┤ ● Five Guys │ 4.0 ┤ ● Food truck burger │ 2.0 ┤ ● McBurger │ 0.0 ┤ ● Homemade burger │ └───────┬─────────┬─────────┬─────────┬─────────→ price $2 $8 $14 $22 $38 ┌────────────────────┬────────┬───…

Thanks, so in this case the value of "code fomatting" is using a fixed-width font ? The next question is where did the "ASCII-art" graph and table come from? Are there sites to generate these?

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