Reading this article and comment section really makes me appreciate Qubes OS (XFCE4), lmao.
60 workspaces, in a 12x5 grid. You'll never catch me driving an Apple!
macOS needs its grid back
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Re: macOS needs its grid back
#262> If they approve, the settings open, then the user has to find the specific little toggle and enable it. Another security prompt then done. Why isn’t this at most 2 prompts? Answer: Because modern-day Apple has subscribed to a particular brand of mitigation for the "noobs will always click 'Allow' especially if you ask them to first" problem. The mitigation is that Apple just dumps you on step 2 of a little 4-5 step…
Wait until they add a captcha so AI can't do it for you.
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#263Nice to see I'm not alone in missing old Spaces. It's too bad we can't mix and match parts of releases as desired. If I could have OS X 10.9 Mavericks (last Aqua release) with 10.6 Spaces and modern macOS integration features (Continuity, etc) I'd be in heaven.
100% agreed.
The issue for me is how buggy the modern features are. Continuity with the clipboard: sometimes I copy text on my phone, and it just never pastes on my Mac. Why? No idea. It's not even like text is a complex format. It just... never pastes.
Or this morning I spent ages trying to connect to my phone's personal hotspot. It was a foot away on the table. It kept saying it could not connect. Turn things off, turn them on again, turn off, on again... I eventually moved to where I have wifi. It's a nice day today and I wanted to be outside. Annoying.
And repeated grinding failures like this form a slow, slow, growth of real frustration and annoyance with Apple. I know I don't hold the same attitude to them these days that I used to, and I think it's the whole set of changes since they dropped Aqua. It's not a good OS any more.
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#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
At that point it's a them problem.
*shrug* I bought my mom a specific laptop to prevent "them" problems. I'm sorry that you're mad that every laptop doesn't conform to your use case, but perhaps this is a good time to realize that not every product is for you, and not every product has to conform to your view of the world. Sometimes, you can just not buy things that don't function the way you want.
Easier said than done. Economies of scale.
I suspect you're missing the entire point of my statement however, I also suspect your mother accessing a recovery boot mode intentionally is not on your list of concerns, if you're infantilizing her use to such an extent.
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#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
All of which are trivial for a user to override, disable, or ignore completely except the primary airbags, which I believe is the whole point. The user is in control and its all in the owner’s manual to boot.
Many are not, and ma y of the ones in the pipe line, like speed limiters and drunk driver detection are going to be legally mandated to be nondisableable..
That's intended for the public good however in my opinion, not the driver themselves.
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#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I think the permissions model for desktop and laptop computers is way too permissive to begin with Well, if you feel that way, they do make platforms that sound like a better fit: iPad, iOS, even Android kinda fits that mold. I would call them "toy computers" but that is my bias. It's not a real computer to me if I am not even in control of what code runs on it.
Ah, I can see what you’re getting at. There is actually a system which is a better fit for me, which is the Mac. I can still run the software I want on it, and even though the security model isn’t tight enough, it’s improving. Linux is also doable, but there’s extra work involved with setting up separate user accounts for running specific pieces of software, configuring namespaces for those processes, that sort of th…
Have you considered Docker?
Re: macOS needs its grid back
#267I've never really used spaces, I remember them being introduced but they didn't really take for me.
Anyway to see what all the fuss is about I've installed Gridlion but… how can I move an app to another space?
I was expecting to be able use to a keystroke to "flick" an app up/down/left/right onto another space.
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I still don't understand the threat. Is it that a user who is not "worthy" of more permissive security may nonetheless be capable of enabling more permissive security? I can put that more charitably by thinking about it in terms of informed consent, ie does the user understand the risks involved. But if you're concerned that someone following a video tutorial or seeking out a friend has not consented, then I think yo…
The threat is that users who are not sufficiently tech savvy will shoot themselves in the foot, including using methods they don't understand. This is a pattern we've seen play out numerous times. The more secure platforms are overwhelmingly the ones that protect the users from themselves, and (most) users value security over absolute computing freedom.
Accurate enough. Those platforms are more secure. But given that many players have a liability-related interest in making sure everyone uses Secure Platforms:
- Many important things that are needed or at least highly useful for daily life will only support "Secure Platforms"
- Everyone will have to use "Secure Platforms" whether they would value computing freedom or not
- "Not As Secure Platforms" will be unsupported and treated as roughly equivalent to malware.
We can see this already literally playing out - it's the whole point of the browser attestation idea.
So thanks to this thinking, we'll get one secure package - Firmware, OS, Browser, all cryptographically sealed. None of them changeable, no "tampering," like adblockers, tracking blockers. No programs that could, say, show you what other programs are phoning home. No third-party programs at all, unless they've paid the platform fee and agreed to Platform Vendor's terms.
You can always use Linux, if you can figure out the drivers, and if you're ok just browsing GNU websites and the Indie Web. Everyone else will block that dirty, non-attested traffic. "It's probably bots," they'll say.
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#269Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I think the permissions model for desktop and laptop computers is way too permissive to begin with Well, if you feel that way, they do make platforms that sound like a better fit: iPad, iOS, even Android kinda fits that mold. I would call them "toy computers" but that is my bias. It's not a real computer to me if I am not even in control of what code runs on it.
Ah, I can see what you’re getting at. There is actually a system which is a better fit for me, which is the Mac. I can still run the software I want on it, and even though the security model isn’t tight enough, it’s improving. Linux is also doable, but there’s extra work involved with setting up separate user accounts for running specific pieces of software, configuring namespaces for those processes, that sort of th…
Problem is, Apple are slowly turning the Mac OS into the iPad. You can't run software you compiled unless you jump through hoops to code sign it. That's today. In the future, it'll probably require Apple's developer subscription for them to "let" you run your software on "your" computer.
I still use a Mac too, but it is not on a good trajectory if you value having any control over your computer.
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The power user market was never that big for Apple since Mac Classic came to be, that was the target market, the "idiots". Desktop power users were on the Acorn, Amiga, Atari and PC. As NeXT "acquired" Apple, Linux users thought OS X was the UNIX experience they were looking for, and since they were never part of Apple culture, keep getting their expectations wrong.
Apple also kind of accidentally won the power user/developer market. When macbooks became synonymous with SV devs, Windows sucked for everything that wasn't Win32 development, and Linux on the desktop wasn't quite there yet (workable, but no where near the state its in today). Your only other choice was mac. It was UNIX, could dual boot windows if you needed it, so it checked the boxes is nice looking hardware (this…
This rings true to me.
Mac when I got started on it in the 00s was really dependent on everything to do with creative - Photoshop, publishing, etc. It kept that for a decade or more, and added a ton of the software developers market in the 2007-2017 era. During that era, they at least made a show of seeing us as an important demographic. Since about that time though they've had so much success in the "mainstream" that it seems like if there is any decision where software developers would want X and it would be better for mainstream nontechnical users if Y, they go with Y every time, and often no longer even bother accommodating the "X" use case at all.
Silly point: Years ago, the iChat client that is the forefather of "Messages" on Mac let you choose a sound for an alert, and it would include whatever sounds you had put in ~/Library/Sounds. Today, it only offers the fixed list of canned alert sounds that shipped with the computer. Because why would a mere user even know what a wav or aiff file is? Why should the user get to choose?