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Re: Ferrari Luce

#261
Yikes. If you showed me this car and asked me to guess the brand I'd probably say Renault. Which isn't meant to be shade on Renault, and I don't exactly hate the design and might even take a look at it if I was in the market given the expectations I have around the price point of a new Renault.

This is absolutely not a car that screams "Ferrari" though.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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> The lights gently recede when switched off, perserving the purity of the form Wow. It's a Ferrari and the top things about the car is how the lights shut off. Way to go Ferrari.

I thought it was telling that the promo site leads with an overhead view of the car's shape, a perspective almost no driver or on-looker will have. If I was buying a status car, I think I'd be mostly interested in how great it looked from the ground...

Re: Ferrari Luce

#264
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Lots of comments saying it looks ugly. I don't agree. But the $650,000 price tag is not pretty - that I can agree on. I know people will pay that.

I didn’t realize it was an Ive creation. The asthetics make more sense now. It just doesn’t really make sense as a Ferrari. Ferrari makes super cars and this is kind a a run of the mill ev under the hood. The interior is very nice. The rest of Ferrari can hopefully borrow from this.

It sounds like the interior is the Ive part.

It’s the outside I don’t like. I don’t hate it… just looks like it could be a Kia EV.

If you’re goofy enough to buy a Ferrari I expect you want people to really have to see that you’re driving a Ferrari.

Re: Ferrari Luce

#265

I feel like most Ferrari drivers are buying them as collector's items to be preserved rather than something to be driven. EVs, by contrast, feel more like appliances meant to be used and enjoyed. And there will always be a more advanced model coming out just around the corner. They've kind of hinted at the fact that this is meant to be more of an appliance than other models, with a more accesible price: > “We were ex…

The Cayenna has never been a bad looking vehicle. Like other German SUVs from that time it elevated an established design language into SUV form. If anyting it was criticized as lazy and unimaginative.

The real beef was Porsche enthusiasts (911 purists) thought SUVs were for unwashed masses and soccer moms. They thought Porsche was jumping on the the relatively new (at the time) premium/luxury german SUV bandwagen establised by the X5 and ML500 (GWagen excluded).

Once they got over that they became customers.

This..thing...on the other hand is a tasteless abomination. Aside from the badges and tail lights there's nothing in it that's inherently Ferrari.

Re: Ferrari Luce

#266

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Just 280+ mile EPA range on a 122 kwH battery. 5100 pounds. 2.5s to 60. Not insane by any standard, ICE or EV.

Yeah that's actually rather inefficient. Tesla Model Y has 84kWh battery and a range of 300 miles.

> Yeah that's actually rather inefficient

Unsurprising, for a Ferrari. I suspect it's designed for performance and not efficiency. Atrocious mileage is par for the course in this segment (see the Veyron)

Re: Ferrari Luce

#267
post #208

Horrible. I don't care if it was designed by Armani in his deathbed or Jony Ive himself. It's just horrible. The flat sides, not even reminiscence of the testarossa glorious days. Worse than the tesla truck and that's in the lowest levels of design. Be careful not to take the Jaguar road for there is no coming back.

It looks like a car by someone who used to design consumer electronics and spent only a cursory amount of time understanding automotive history, design, aesthetics, etc.

Long live the Ivesmobile.

Re: Ferrari Luce

#268

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I believe he only designed the interior

"In a genius move, they hired design agency LoveFrom to handle the exterior and interior execution: that’s headed by former Apple chief design officer, Sir Jonathan Ive."

Well, we finally got to find out what an Apple car would have looked like.

Re: Ferrari Luce

#269

Four wheel steering, active suspension, low center of gravity, 1050 HP... The display & controls do look very nice! I love how they found a way to make the sound provide real feedback. I wonder if the cabin gets feedback faster than the speed of sound in air would travel, that would be neat. I'm skeptical they kept the loop fast enough to beat speed of sound in metal though (5000~6000 m/s for steel). > The Luce’s sou…

As a lifelong fan of Ferrari, I find both the interior and exterior hideous.

Is Ferrari even known for interiors? Looking at pics they all seem to be hideous.

Re: Ferrari Luce

#270
post #128

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I don't love it either, but that's the whole point I think. Try to pull off an icon, rather than make existing designs works. Cybertruck did it, same with Jaguar. Ultimately the probably should've gone with SUV tho - it's what people buy and looking at interior it what should've been - mass produced, luxury, performance car for everyone. p.s. Car ethusiasts suck and nobody should listen to them. All they want is v8 m…

The Cybertruck and Jaguar rebrand are both complete flops. Interesting product advice you have to offer. Who do you think is the target market for expensive Italian sports cars, if not “car enthusiasts”?

> if not “car enthusiasts”

lol most of them posers with money.

Lambo's 60% of sales is an SUV.

I'd argue there's certain brand toxicity in their cars.

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