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And they don't make the model worse once you have a subscription! It doesn't matter how good Opus is if 2 months into your subscription they make it worse than GPT 3 to save money.
DeepSeek don't have a subscription plan.
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DeepSeek don't have a subscription plan.
OpenCode Go includes it. Pro and Flash
I imagine when onlyrealcuzzo said "they don't make the model worse once you have a subscription", he didn't mean OpenCode Go, otherwise they would have probably said so.
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> What's the best way to use it with Pi, OpenRouter? I can't claim it's "the best"... But the Pi.dev and OpenRouter combo is what I'm doing at home, and I love it. Setup was easy, I can use /model to switch between any of the openrouter models and whatever I'm hosting locally via VLLM.
Open router is a 5% tax? If you use it seriously may as well skip it
Anyhow, I'm pulling myself up by my own bootstraps.
For me a 5% overhead is fine... if it gives me better visibility of this rapidly moving field.
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How does the cost compare using the API vs the $20/month plans with other providers? I did some back of the envelope calculations and it seems like you would pay $5/month using DeepSeek directly or $15-20 with OpenRouter or similar. But would be interested to hear real world usage.
It is still more expensive per-request than the common Anthropic and OpenAI subscriptions, but the math changes a lot based on your specific use case. https://codeberg.org/mutablecc/calculate-ai-cost/src/branch/... But as usual, there are far cheaper subscriptions with higher limits than Anthropic and OpenAI, that also provide DeepSeek v4 Pro. So you should use those subscriptions first until you max them out, then l…
Could you please elaborate on the far cheaper subscriptions that we should be using?
This looks suspiciously cheap. The same model hosted by other providers is much more expensive [0]. So either DeepSeek can host it much cheaper than anyone else, or their business model is different. I suspect the latter, especially since their privacy policy [1] says personal data, including “User Input,” can be used "To improve and develop the Services and to train and improve our technology" . [0]: https://openrou…
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OpenCode Go includes it. Pro and Flash
OpenCode Go is not DeepSeek. They may host the model but they're run by an entirely different organisation. I imagine when onlyrealcuzzo said "they don't make the model worse once you have a subscription", he didn't mean OpenCode Go, otherwise they would have probably said so.
Once they have their own coding agent which they seem to be working towards, I may start predominantly using their models. They seem to be doing all the "right" things, open sourcing models, publishing research, and keeping prices low for everyone.
https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/china3...