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Re: Google I/O

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Post by wunderlotus »

Corence wrote: post #80
jerrygarcia wrote: post #40

Demo: avoid getting to know your neighbors by letting your AI agent plan the neighborhood lock party

Unironically you can put "what are good demos for agentic workflows at Google I/O that would be received well by the general public" into Gemini's AI Mode and get better suggestions for use cases than what they're showing.

Welp. I bit the bullet. Copied your question, opened the Gemini app on my iPhone, and pasted it to the new 3.5 flash model. IMO, the answer unnecessarily long, the suggestions were on par with what was mentioned and presented during the part of the keynote that I watched. Also, the summary table didn’t render correctly in the app but does render on web.

My conclusion: maybe they did use Gemini to brainstorm.

Convo link: https://g.co/gemini/share/26a0549dc579

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Post by surajrmal »

sunaookami wrote: post #241
paulddraper wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm on a different plan or something. > It's constantly overloaded and shits the bed Or happen avoid all the downtime. Claude has one 9 of uptime, downtime for me multiple times per week. [1] When it works, it's great. It just doesn't work that often recently. [1] https://status.claude.com/

I'm on Google AI Pro

What are you expecting for $20/month?

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Post by MrDarcy »

kibwen wrote: post #182
MrDarcy wrote: post #72

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Why wouldn’t you want to?

Because it's an activity with zero benefit and nonzero cost?

Clearly a matter of opinion and circumstances. Plenty of people with effectively zero cost access to agents who see value in implementing an operating system from scratch. The team who made the demo for example, and those of us who see the possibilities the demo inspires for another example.

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Post by MrDarcy »

dakiol wrote: post #119
MrDarcy wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why wouldn’t you want to?

Because it would be sponsored by anthropic/google/openai? You cannot do it (typically) without paying for the tokens they only can offer. Programming used to be free, but slowly, we need to pay for every single line of code. It's sickening

Nobody has taken away the freedom to program like we used to. Punch cards may be more expensive now, but vim and emacs are still as free as they ever were.

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Post by arionmiles »

throwa356262 wrote: post #254
arionmiles wrote: post #100

Watching these bland presentations with choreographed delivery and reading off a prompt off-screen (I'm not completely sure they're doing this, but it looks like it) makes me appreciate Steve Jobs presentations from the past so much more. Steve really had product presentations down. I wish people at least tried to copy him.

Google IO is for developers not consumers

sure.. WWDC also has "Developers Conference" in its name.

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Post by ksec »

nunez wrote: post #237
arionmiles wrote: post #100

Watching these bland presentations with choreographed delivery and reading off a prompt off-screen (I'm not completely sure they're doing this, but it looks like it) makes me appreciate Steve Jobs presentations from the past so much more. Steve really had product presentations down. I wish people at least tried to copy him.

People have definitely tried. Like Sinofsky when he announced the Surface Laptop several years ago. Or countless founders announcing their stuff. Steve was an absolute natural at the keynote and tech demo. Some people are just born like that, I think.

It is not simply just born like that. Even though he was extremely talented.

Steve practice his speech and keynote way more than any others. Once you have talent + hardwork it is hard to replicate. But even taking out the talent itself, none of the keynote are prepped to the details of what Steve would do.

In Steve's view. They probably don't give a damn about product marketing.

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Post by PokeyCat »

esseph wrote: post #252
PokeyCat wrote: post #170

Ugh. Was really hoping that they were going to actually announce a release date for the display glasses this year at I/O, but it seems that they still don't have the tech ready for this. Audio only this year is a massive disappointment.

> Audio only this year is a massive disappointment. Maybe for you. There's been a lot of pushback against glasses and video recording.

The video recording/cameras I don't necessarily care about nor frankly want, what I want is a nice set of glasses with a HUD untethered from a bulky puck or battery pack. That's a device I've wanted to hack on for a long time - Google Glass was actually something I was interested in sans camera, I think there's still great potential for HUD style devices without the privacy implications of world facing cameras.

Was hoping that Google would be able to get the technology there this year for consumers, especially since Meta announced and demoed similar. Seems like Meta is going to be the only game in town for this for the foreseeable future, but I don't trust Meta in the slightest with a device like this from a privacy standpoint nor a platform openness standpoint.

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Post by ezst »

Glohrischi wrote: post #246
nevi-me wrote: post #211

The keynote was the most boring for me. I paused it to go to the bathroom, and even forgot that I was watching it. I think they've lost track of the meaning of IO and its keynotes for users. They should rather have a separate Gemini event like they had a separate Android one last week. They're collectively losing track of their product verticals because they're too focused on shoving AI down everything. Google Home i…

They tell you that they increase invest from 10-30billion to 160 billion which will all go into compute and research. This alone is such a crazy time to experience the amount of compute our society is adding globally. Geminis quality increased again + long running agents. This will hurt so many people who do 'stuff on a computer'. If this hits production, i probably would prefer to fire 1-2 collegues and get their sa…

When the field is so crowded with astroturf and myopic takes that you can no longer tell what's sarcasm and not.

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Post by Glohrischi »

ezst wrote: post #269
Glohrischi wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They tell you that they increase invest from 10-30billion to 160 billion which will all go into compute and research. This alone is such a crazy time to experience the amount of compute our society is adding globally. Geminis quality increased again + long running agents. This will hurt so many people who do 'stuff on a computer'. If this hits production, i probably would prefer to fire 1-2 collegues and get their sa…

When the field is so crowded with astroturf and myopic takes that you can no longer tell what's sarcasm and not.

You always need to read through the marketing garbage.

Nonethless, in comparision to a lot of other companies, Google has Deepmind and the money to just do all of it without spending money which doesn't exist.

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