I don't understand OpenAI's product strategy.
People ask for a thing they want, someone there has codex build it. Repeat.
Codex is now in the ChatGPT mobile app
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#262This feature could well be the reason OpenAI hired Peter Steinberger (OpenClaw).
A mobile app was requested by many people before Peter joined OpenAI. Also the App Server was in place for the desktop app well before that too. See https://openai.com/index/unlocking-the-codex-harness/ for some history.
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#263One thing not to sleep on here is that the new ssh access enables you to dockerize your dev environments while still maintaining a local control plane. Interact local, execute remote.
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#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There's a new kind of coding I call "vibe coding", where you fully give in to the vibes, embrace exponentials, and forget that the code even exists. https://x.com/karpathy/status/1886192184808149383 Forgetting code exists is by definition not suitable for serious work. However, OP said in the following paragraph, that this would be a first draft, and that the code would actually be reviewed and tested properly befo…
> Forgetting code exists is by definition not suitable for serious work This is just like everyone who says, “An iPad is not suitable for serious work.” By which they (and you) generally mean, “What I do is serious work. What you do is unserious work.” I think I do serious work – I mean they pay me for it? And I have only copy/pasted and just run whatever code’s been generated by AI for the past 12 months or so. When…
Well, are you reading the code? If not, how can you vouch for the correctness?
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#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just...write longer messages. Maybe it is age but I've written huge forum such as on HN all from my phone often with multiple tabs open to source various links for foot notes. When I type for an LLM, I will type a lot too if needed and will often even type a little, wait to think, then continue, over the course of like 15 minutes even, so that the intention of the prompt is correct since that saves much more time and…
For me personally, I haven't really found that length per se is what makes something harder to write on mobile vs desktop, but more the level of "complexity". If it's just a matter of banging out a bunch of straightforward linear text, I'll often reach for my phone before my laptop. Mobile swipe typing is actually pretty productive for that sort of thing, in my experience. Where it starts to become a pain is when the…
For prompting an LLM specifically, what sort of formatting do you need, as you can just throw a stream of consciousness to it and it'll parse it just fine? For looking up other stuff, sure, but it's not too hard to open up new tabs in the mobile browser. I find it way more useful to be able to make stuff on the go rather than having to sit down every time.
Does the tunnel setup feel clunky to use? That's the main thing that stops me.
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#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure about others but I can't coherently voice my thoughts through speech alone as I'd want to think and revise the message, so I generally don't use voice transcription with AI.
I haven't found that to be an issue. Just say what revisions you want. Once you're done, paste it into an LLM to clean it up into a usable prompt.
That sounds more annoying than just typing it myself. I guess if you're on a walk you can just talk into your earbuds and the coding agent will parse everything automatically though.
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#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Forgetting code exists is by definition not suitable for serious work This is just like everyone who says, “An iPad is not suitable for serious work.” By which they (and you) generally mean, “What I do is serious work. What you do is unserious work.” I think I do serious work – I mean they pay me for it? And I have only copy/pasted and just run whatever code’s been generated by AI for the past 12 months or so. When…
Well, are you reading the code? If not, how can you vouch for the correctness?
No, not reading the code. I vouch for the correctness because it runs and produces output that is useful. It might not be 100% right but neither was the code I wrote by hand.
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No we won't see that because the whole 'broke my computer' trope pretty much never happens to people unless they are researchers going wild in a VM to trigger it. And pure novices are just... not using these tools, and when they do, at most they lose a spreadsheet. (and that hardly happens either, if at all) This is a non-issue problem raised by anti-ai zealots, much like data center water use is overblown. Headlines…
I am an engineer and just the other day forgot to set a disk quota on a container I gave an agent and it almost reached disk space running a simulation that was logging to a DB overnight. If that would have happened I probably would have lost ability to ssh and that computer isn't connected to a display or keyboard so would have been a huge headache for me to reset. And novices ARE absolutely using these things, I ha…
I am still waiting for the story where it doesnt involve an experienced dev who is perfectly aware of the risks, pushes the boundary, and makes a mistake....and then catches it before it gets out of hand. You're literally proving my exact point. Novices are not SSH'ing into servers. The very act of having something to SSH into eliminates potentially the entire novice pool.
Also, your worst case was... having to dig for some cables and peripherals, which of course you have around, because you are into computers and self hosting.
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#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am an engineer and just the other day forgot to set a disk quota on a container I gave an agent and it almost reached disk space running a simulation that was logging to a DB overnight. If that would have happened I probably would have lost ability to ssh and that computer isn't connected to a display or keyboard so would have been a huge headache for me to reset. And novices ARE absolutely using these things, I ha…
Also to drive this point home I've had claude suggest no password sudo before, some people are going to blindly accept that on a computer that also has access to accounts. Making that computer very vulnerable.
Neither of these (yours and other commenter) points drive anything home. Both involve an experienced dev dealing with systems they understand, avoiding "issues" due to being experienced. I say again, show me the actual accidental catastrophe caused by a novice using agentic coding tools. You take for granted the barrier to entry here. You take for granted what a colossal minority we are in, those of us who use these tools. What a minority it is to even have ever opened a CLI to install something. And even then, the self risk factor is so miniscule. There are fools (admittedly ill-advised even from my perspective) who have their claudes on ralph loops for days... and theyre all doing... just fine.